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All Forum Posts by: Mary Schr

Mary Schr has started 5 posts and replied 28 times.

Thanks all: my property is on 72nd street between northern and 32nd Avenue.  It’s not too far from the subway (totally walkable).

The upstairs 2 bedroom rents out for $2325 with a parking spot.

The downstairs 1.5 bedroom rents out for $1830 (no parking).

Both units have backyard access.  But my bills right now are about $4600 a month and the rents only pull in $4155.  

It’s a corner oversized lot, two family.  I wish I could convert the garage into a living room because, then, I can charge a little more rent and at least not be paying into the property.

At this point, I’m tired of losing money on the property and would sell it if I could at least sell it for $1.2 mil (was bought for $865,000).  Mortgage has only built in a puny $12000 in equity...I gut renovated both units when I bought it and want to recoup some of the money I put into it...I really don’t know what to do...

Originally posted by @Matthew Ringer:

@Mary Schr how much is repairs and maintenance costing you on an annual basis:

Annually it’s been averaging about $3000-$4000.  

Thanks everyone for your help!  Right now I feel like I’m putting money into the property every other month or so.  The rents barely cover the mortgage and taxes and insurance.  

I love the property and I do see signs of rising real estate prices in the area but nothing is happening that fast.  

It’s so hard to tell because this is Queens, NY.  I mean, real estate prices went through the roof (no pun intended) in the last few years so average families became millionaires.  I don’t really have a strategy.  Bottom line: I’m sinking money into the house.  It probably will take time to become profitable but it’s risky...I don’t know how much or if it’ll be profitable.  I’m having a hard time letting go of it because it’s a nice property, it’s a piece of land in a nicer neighborhood in NYC and it’s  the first house I ever owned!

Hi,

Three years ago I bought a two family home in an up and coming part of queens, ny.  The original plan was to live in the two bedroom unit and rent out the one bedroom but circumstances prevailed and I had to rent out both units.  The rents from the units is about .5% of the purchase price; cash flow is almost nothing: the rents cover the mortgage and tax and insurance and that’s about it.  I’ve had to dip into my own funds to do repairs.  

I didn’t know anything about investing in real estate so the fact that the numbers aren’t good is a rookie mistake.  I’m tempted to sell it off but everyone is always telling me that real estate in this part of queens (east Elmhurst/Jackson heights) will get more valuable and I should just hold onto it...I don’t have capital to make improvements or make it bigger.  The only thing that might make the numbers nice is if I somehow constructed a third story apartment but that just sounds insane...

I dunno what to do...

The numbers are:

Purchase: 870,000

Two bedroom apt rent: $2325

One bedroom apt rent: $1835

A quick update: this forum helped me a lot.  I looked at the coop rules and only one-year leases are allowed.  I talked to the coop's management and they said the only way the board would approve her lease (which I just recently filed with them) was if it was a one year lease.   The management told me to make the change on the lease end date to one year, initial it and have her initial it.

She's refusing to answer the phone or email so I am sending the amended lease to her and will ask her to initial and mail to the coop's management company.  

It seems like a better, simpler way out of the three year lease mess...Her lease would now end in a few months and I can move on with my life.  Here's to hoping she initials the change with little fight.

You are absolutely correct.   Everyone told me never to rent to anyone I know personally. Many , many lessons learned...
Originally posted by @Drey S.:

Mary, 

I keep reading your responses to experts and it sounds like you're still trying to do the "nice" thing. I think you don't like conflict, many of us don't  - but by not handing the reigns to someone who gets paid to handle this type of conflict, you'll continue to suffer both financially and psychologically. 

 As someone who learned the hard way, tenants are a business - NOT friends or people who even care about  your "kindness". I echo many thoughts that you should immediately hand this over to someone ruthless and get out of your own way. You have grieving to do and this can go very far south very quickly.

Good call and thanks!  I’ll continue to document just in case...

Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

If you are going to evict for personal occupancy do not mention anything about any other issue, that could be a major mistake that may back fire on you. A judge could easily view the situation as you being less than honest about personal occupancy and view you as a landlord looking to boot a difficult tenant. You could very likely have your application denied. Nothing she has done is relevant to owner occupancy and should never be mentioned.
Continue to document in the event your state codes do not allow eviction for owner occupancy.

I gave it some thought and spoke to my husband.  We are going to ask her to pay the fines for the illegal renovation.  We will also start documenting things she’s done.  I may hire a property manager to collect rent and help document what she’s up to (I need a tenacious one!).  My lease for my rental (that I live in) is up in January.  In December, I will give her a notice to vacate.  In January, I will start eviction proceedings with a lawyer for the intent of personal habitation.  I’ll have all the other stuff documented so I can tell the judge that part of the issue is how difficult she has been to deal with.

And finally, it is a good idea to find out how long of a lease the coop board even allows because her three year lease may not even be allowed by the coop. 

Thanks Theresa—for your kind words...


Originally posted by @Theresa Harris:

@Mary Schr  I'm sorry about the loss of your mom.  It is clearly recent and you're still dealing with it.  

I agree with others to get a property manager to deal with this if you are going to let her continue to rent until summer 2020; however, as she hasn't followed the rules with the renovations, you are going to be better off financially and emotionally if you hire an eviction attorney and let them deal with it.  I know it is easier to say than do, but you aren't helping yourself by trying to deal with this on your own and you may create problems that delay getting her out.  Yes it will cost you money in the short term, but it is worth it. 

If she's truly making up stories, others will figure it out sooner or later on their own.  Try to ignore them and focus on yourself and your kids. 

Thanks so much!  I need to find a lawyer that specializes in evictions.  I also should review the coop proprietary lease and see what it says.  That’s a good idea.  The coop is in Jamaica Hills.  Appreciate your advice.

Originally posted by @Jason Lee:

You don't need a property manager. You need an attorney that specializes in tenant/landlord and evictions.

Where in NYC is the co-op? Most co-op's limit leases to 1-2 years. What does your lease say? Most standard co-op subleases contain provisions for following the co-ops rules, alterations to the apartment, etc. You don't need to contact anyone on the board or the management company. You need to contact a competent attorney.