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All Forum Posts by: Matthew McKee

Matthew McKee has started 1 posts and replied 164 times.

Post: Using a HELOC for first property

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285
Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Stephen Daniel Pace:
Quote from @Conner Olsen:
Quote from @Stephen Daniel Pace:

Hi BP! I'm looking into getting a HELOC on my primary residence since I have significant equity mainly due to the current market. I'd like to use it as a down payment or cash purchase for my first investment property so that I don't have to use my cash savings. I've seen and heard that this is possible but want to get thoughts from others who have done this and what success or challenges they've had. Thanks in advance for your replies!


Use a HELOC if you plan to pay it off in under 2 years. If you can't do that then refinance or get a second lien.

Hey Conner! So you're saying refinance the the loan for the investment property or get a second lien on it if I can't pay the HELOC off in 2 years? I'm just trying to understand your recommendation…


 HELOCs are great for short-term projects like flips or BRRRRs. The advice I hear from investors more experienced than me is plan to pay it off in one year, two years max. That's because interest rate environment is so unstable and that can kill your cash flow. If you want to do a buy and hold, I'd get a second loan on your equity or refinancing the whole property to get the cash to buy the investment.

@Stephen Daniel Pace depending on your current interest rate, cash out refi on your primary residence may not make sense. You can cash out refi on the investment property if you plan on adding value(sweat equity), it’ll be tighter to do if you are looking for a turnkey property.


all-in-all it’s a great plan to let your primary residence work for you providing you do the proper due diligence on your investment

Post: Should I use a mortgage broker?

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

The beginner's guide: Broker all the way, FHA loan at 96.5% LTV and house hack while adding value.

Post: First time out-of-state rental property investment

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

It’s not about timing the market, it’s about time in the market. A lot of markets are seeing a rise in rents. As long as the deal makes sense then the timing never matters.

Getting a good property management company is the key to success in out of state investing.

Post: Second House Hack financing

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

If you find a market >50 miles away you can get a second loan for 10% down. That would have to be an STR, because you have to have the intent to reside in it ~two weeks out of the year.

or there’s private lending/seller hold back options.


Post: Millennial's growing poorer

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285
Quote from @Scott Trench:

I believe that this data is about 8 years out of date. Millennial wealth has been skyrocketing, especially in the last few years. And, I believe Millennials are in great position to benefit from the economic realities that are ahead of us (in a relative sense). 

Millennials are benefitting disproportionately from the great resignation. Millenial's net worth has doubled since the start of the pandemic.

Lower asset values mean that higher millennial paychecks buy a greater share of GDP per capita. 

Fed policy of easy money ballooned asset values for the older generations over the past 10 years. That's coming to an end and was the real insidious evil that kept millennials down and ballooned inequality. Jerome Powell will inflict pain on everyone, but millennials will be hurt the least as they are entering their prime earnings years, finally getting out of debt, and will be able to buy assets in a period of higher interest rates and lower real asset values - an economy that is more "sane" than the one we just experienced for the last 5-7 years.

 Older generations, particularly boomers, are exiting their prime earnings years. They must spend that wealth at some point. And the providers of those goods and services will be millennials. 

None of this really addresses your point, which seems to be to sympathize with student loan forgiveness. I think that's a tricky issue. I think it's great for the folks who receive the forgiveness, and a bit unfair to taxpayers who repaid similar loans or who did not receive a college education. I don't think people will ever agree on this one. 

One thing that I do think will be a benefit from the student loan debate, is that it seems that both sides can clearly agree that student loans are inflicting terrible damage on millions of individuals and society at large. 

We need to stop giving them out. And significantly reform them. If we care about this problem enough to spend $300B to forgive debts for current borrowers, surely we care enough about the next generation to prevent them from taking on unreasonable student loan debt the next time around?

My vote:

1) End all federal student loan programs, privatizing the student loan market 

2) Establish usury protections for borrowers (can't allow a 17/18 year old to get completely swindled as a "welcome to adulthood...") 

3) Allow student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy. Eliminate that exemption. 

Within a few years, or perhaps overnight, the 80/20 of the absurdities in higher education would be eliminated. Tuition would plummet, worthless degrees would cease to exist (because no sane lender is giving an 18 year old $100K to study "fashion design" if that student can declare bankruptcy), colleges would eliminate the focus on "experience" classes would be harder, tens or hundreds of thousands of administrative positions at colleges would be eliminated, and ROI would be carefully considered by students, parents, lenders, and colleges.

 You can be empathetic to a student loan forgiveness recipient while condoning the practices which allowed that recipient to put themselves in egregious debt.

The forgiveness seems to be an expensive bandaid that won’t prevent other young adults, that are only moments away from children, in the same position.


we’ll emphasized @Scott Trench 

Post: Nearing 1,000 College Student Tenants: Here's what I've Learned

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

@Will Gaston this is an incredible threat, way to work it by keeping up with all these responses!

Post: Avoiding Property Tax Assessment Increase

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

In theory that’ll work but it seems like you’re going to have to go through a real estate attorney to confirm anything.

Post: Housing crash deniers ???

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285

Hey BP family, seems like this is a heated debate. There’s good points and opinions on both sides of this discussion.

Just here to remind everyone we’re on the same team and this is a family, let’s not make it a blood bath and ego centric “I told you so’s and callouts”.

You’re not ring if your buying and you’re not wrong if you’re waiting. You’re just acting on you’re due diligence. 

Listen loudly, speak softly and have a great labor day weekend!

Post: Down Payment Options

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285
Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Lindsey McKinney:

I am looking at purchasing a 12 door LLC. Loan approval is no issue but looking at creative ways to finance or come up with $150,000 down payment.... Any ideas?


 you are not ready, simply flip the contract IF its a good deal, make a fee . SAVE learn then apply what you learn 

@Bob Stevens I get your sentiment but the tone seems a bit off putting.

Seems like you’re biting off more than you’ve experienced with this deal, failure can be more rewarding that success but you can mitigate painful learning experiences by bringing the deal to an experienced real estate investor and apprenticing the deal under them. This will give you first hand experience that’ll allow you to implement the systems and scale with mitigated financial and time risks. 

Hope this thought helps!

Post: Down Payment Options

Matthew McKeePosted
  • Real Estate Coach
  • Boise, ID
  • Posts 177
  • Votes 285
Quote from @Wale Lawal:

@Lindsey McKinney

Here are some alternative ideas for coming up with the down payment for an investment property!

1. Home Equity
2. Rental Equity Line of Credit (“RELOC”)
3. Cross-Collateralization
4. Your 401(k)
5. Your Roth IRA
6. House Hack to Slash Your Down Payment (and Live for Free)
7. Owner Financing
8. Gap Funding
9. Loans from Friends & Family
10. Co-Investment from Friends & Family

Read this article for detailed information https://sparkrental.com/down-p...

Good luck!

This is a very comprehensive list, good work @Wale Lawal