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All Forum Posts by: Mike Klarman

Mike Klarman has started 20 posts and replied 991 times.

Post: HML, PML, Ground Up, Commercial, Multis, Land Deals...

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
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I can get any kind of deal done from your basic fix n flip to your luxury ground up and everything in between. Whether it is commercial, mixed use, Hotel/Motel builds, rural deals, or anything under the sun. If you also have any questions on how Hard Money works, how to get yourself ready, what the process is like, or want an education on the space do not hesitate to reach out. Too many people jump in too quickly and get in over their head before they realize. This RE investing works, but it does not work for everyone, therefor it is safe to assume technique is the differentiator.

Whether you have financing needs, want some pricing, or have any questions feel free to call, text, or email:

Michael Klarman

Champion Brokers

267 251 7649

[email protected]

Post: Website listing business lenders?

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
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My apologies. 

Business Lending is tough.  There's a company Fund N Grow that educates ppl on card stacking and teaches them how to unlock capital at 0% for 12 months.  It's not a poof and here's your 100k type of thing.  It is done in cycles and it is not liquidated as cash.  You can kind of ACH ppl money from the cards.  But it is done in cycles about 4 months apart.  And, if you have three cards come in on the first cycle and t hose cards add up to 15k let's say and you use that 15k, when you go to apply for cycle 2 you need to be at less than 50% utilization of those cards so 7500 needs to come back.  Then you apply for cycle two, and in cycle two maybe you get 25k in 4 cards and now they will count that as 40k.  15k in cycle 1, 25k in cycle two.  Same thing though, when you apply for cycle 3 you need to be less than 50% Utilization.  It's not as easy and streamlined as people think.

If you have an LLC that has been around for 3 years and has been making money it can show through tax returns, then the SBA can offer someone 30% of their gross revenue for last tax year in a 10 year, no PPP, interest only loan at around 12%. You pay 1% per month. If you borrow 30k you pay 300/month. Cheap debt considering. This loan you cannot use to acquire real estate although there is no way for them to check, but they have other loan programs where you can buy real estate.

I'm closing an SBA loan now.  Took 3 - 4 weeks.  Last 2 yrs tax returns, three months bank statements, some forms and that's it.  They wire the money right to your account.

Post: HML, PML, Ground UP, Commercial, Multis, Outside The Box Deals....

Mike KlarmanPosted
  • Specialist
  • New Jersey
  • Posts 1,052
  • Votes 456

I can get any kind of deal done from your basic fix n flip to your luxury ground up and everything in between. Whether it is commercial, mixed use, Hotel/Motel builds, rural deals, or anything under the sun. If you also have any questions on how Hard Money works, how to get yourself ready, what the process is like, or want an education on the space do not hesitate to reach out. Too many people jump in too quickly and get in over their head before they realize. This RE investing works, but it does not work for everyone, therefor it is safe to assume technique is the differentiator.

Whether you have financing needs, want some pricing, or have any questions feel free to call, text, or email:

Michael Klarman

Champion Brokers

267 251 7649

[email protected]

Post: Hml, Pml, Guc, Commercial, Multi Financing

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
  • Posts 1,052
  • Votes 456

I can get any kind of deal done from your basic fix n flip to your luxury ground up and everything in between. Whether it is commercial, mixed use, Hotel/Motel builds, rural deals, or anything under the sun. If you also have any questions on how Hard Money works, how to get yourself ready, what the process is like, or want an education on the space do not hesitate to reach out. Too many people jump in too quickly and get in over their head before they realize. This RE investing works, but it does not work for everyone, therefor it is safe to assume technique is the differentiator.

Whether you have financing needs, want some pricing, or have any questions feel free to call, text, or email:

Michael Klarman

Champion Brokers

267 251 7649

[email protected]

Post: Greater Boston - Newbie Ready to Learn!

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
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Greetings Jocelyn.  You will learn a lot here about the key facets of being a successful investor: Team Building, Property Sourcing, Financing, Construction, Exit strategies.

I can tell you what I have learned, if you are just starting out what is important is credit.  Get that up north of 750 if possible.  At least over 700, but if 0 exp then need it as high as possible, but financing is far away so you have time to get up over 700 if you are not there, that's going to be vital though.

But before you even do that, you have to know how much money you are dealing with. If you have 30k at least then maybe you can see a deal through where you are in at 75k - 90k and putting 60k - 80k in. You can't find those deals everywhere, especially not in Boston. You have to find a market that works for you financially. If you have 200k and can start in Boston and lay out 150k+ over 6 months then you can start there, but I wouldn't. This REI is a slippery slope. What if something goes wrong at that price range? Holding costs are longer, rehabs have add-ons that cost more or the work needs to be redone cause it is shoddy. Imagine a project in that range sucking the life out of you, even with 200k - 300k in capital you will run out of air quick.

You have to set-up your playground, gather all the players there: Lender, Property Sources, Contractors, Your Salesmen/women for the exit.  You have to balance all those relationships, keep them all happy and busy cause the second you don't have them working on your deals, they will be working on someone else's.  They won't hop on your text and calls anymore, they'll stop sending you houses.  It's a very fine line you have to walk between getting the network set-up, motivated, and ready to go and then also being ready to go on your end with capital and financing.  Then you have to hope nobody drops the ball during the project, which yes, happens, and not that sporadically.

Post: Website listing business lenders?

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Most oddball lending sounding companies are brokers selling the products of the big boys. There's a few big national HML outfits that fund most of the bridge and DSCR loans. Now, if you went to one of these big lenders directly, you'd probably pay the same price as long as the broker wasn't gauging you, especially if you are new. i know lenders who offer the one point bridge option to direct borrowers, but I know for a fact LOs at these outfits are told not to sell that or give it away.

You do not need to call every lender in America, it's obvious you are new to real estate because you are looking for lenders and asking where to find them.  If you are new, make sure your credit is good.  I have gotten first timers 90% before b/c of deal spread and credit.

You are right to be cautious. There's all kinds of sharks swimming in these waters. It's shark week every day in REI world.

If you are new, I can tell you what is out there for you if you have 700+ credit: Anywhere from 75% - 90% leverage depending upon lender, market, deal spread and the interest rate will be anywhere from 11.5% - 12.5%.  Origination should be 2 points, maybe three.  If three you're dealing with a broker for sure and a greedy one at that.  Some lenders, if the Broker does enough volume and the deal is big, they will offer a .5 point rate for bridge and allow the broker to take 1.5 points origination.

I promise you all, it is not the lending terms that will make or break you.  If you paid 4 points and 14%, and the deal spread was 100k, and your GC did a great job you'd do better than someone who paid 1 point at 9.99% and their GC was a mess.  You'd choose to be the former, not the ladder.

Post: HML, PML, Commercial Property, GUC with no EXP in some states....

Mike KlarmanPosted
  • Specialist
  • New Jersey
  • Posts 1,052
  • Votes 456

I can get any kind of deal done from your basic fix n flip to your luxury ground up and everything in between. Whether it is commercial, mixed use, Hotel/Motel builds, rural deals, or anything under the sun. If you also have any questions on how Hard Money works, how to get yourself ready, what the process is like, or want an education on the space do not hesitate to reach out. Too many people jump in too quickly and get in over their head before they realize. This RE investing works, but it does not work for everyone, therefor it is safe to assume technique is the differentiator.

Whether you have financing needs, want some pricing, or have any questions feel free to call, text, or email:

Michael Klarman

Champion Brokers

267 251 7649

[email protected]

Post: Financing Needs And Questions

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
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I can get any kind of deal done from your basic fix n flip to your luxury ground up and everything in between.  Whether it is commercial, mixed use, Hotel/Motel builds, rural deals, or anything under the sun.  If you also have any questions on how Hard Money works, how to get yourself ready, what the process is like, or want an education on the space do not hesitate to reach out.  Too many people jump in too quickly and get in over their head before they realize.  This RE investing works, but it does not work for everyone, therefor it is safe to assume technique is the differentiator.

Whether you have financing needs, want some pricing, or have any questions feel free to call, text, or email:

Michael Klarman

Champion Brokers

267 251 7649

[email protected]

Post: BRRRR strategy in a small group.

Mike KlarmanPosted
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In Theory, the BRRRR is great. It's like saying, buy a stock low and sell it high (flips). Or buy stocks that pay dividends (rentals). These are solid investing strategies generally speaking, but they are way more complex than an axiom we throw around.

Theoretical math always works out perfectly because we are in control of the numbers. But what happens in the group scenario when there is a 10k overage in the reno and the group has to come out of pocket and some members do not have it. Now what happens to the percentages? Or if it is time to sell and you guys can't agree on the list price or the agent. Will the group member engaged daily want a bigger piece or have to put in less money? There's lots, and lots, and lots of challenges to the BRRRR, here are some:

BUY: Obviously you want to get in for as cheap as possible, but if you are working off of MLS or wholesalers then you'll be at Market or above after all the closing costs. If you can buy cash, that is best, get's you the best deals. There's opportunity to buy RE at 60% - 70% of its value for cash. You just need to know where, how, and have the proper channels set-up. Now, remember this is a commission based industry for the players involved, so an agent may send you something with blown out comps or a wholesaler may do the same thing. So buying can be an issue. You need a solid property analyzer that has your interests at heart, not theirs. But you are just one contact in their phone, they are just trying to move properties to whomever. Are they really gonna hold your hand and waste time on you? Setting up your assembly line of deals marching in is not easy. Took me over 6 months to build a network up to the point where I get sent properties now weekly by multiple sources and I closed with them all, I made sure to close with everyone at least once because you're nothing to them until you close one.

REHAB: Well, welcome to BRRRR Purgatory. You may never get out of this stage. You may be in a stalled project, looking to wholesale out at a small loss. Don't believe me? Anyone who dips their toes in the General Contracting waters will lose a digit or two. Projects will last longer than thought, cost more than thought, finishes won't be as good as promised, holding costs will pile up, then you hope your GC doesn't ghost you and run off with the draw money. This is one of those professions where being a licensed professional means nothing. All it means is that you have $100 and watched a video on Lead Paint. And they all sound great on the phone. They're huge yes men and they have great before and after photos. I've had to switch GCs mid project, I've been ghosted, I've been lied to, had money embezzled. Like I said, this is Purgatory and you may never leave.

RENT: If A property manager finds you your tenant they usually take the first month's rent and then 8% - 10% of the rent there after and then, you have the tenants problem of poor treatment of the house you just finished and then you'll see that your PM won't be as attentive as you want and then when they do go to the property they will charge you the handyman fees for changing this and that.  It can be a real headache.

REFINANCE: Here's where you hope there were no market shifts in the sales prices and ARVs.  The appraisal comes in and then you have to find a good spot for your refi.  Another closing and you hope to get your cash back that you laid out, you rarely get it all back if you bought near or at Market, most likely you're leaving money in.

REPEAT: If you dare!!!!! 

Post: How to access equity for HELOC on MFR duplex in TX?

Mike KlarmanPosted
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  • New Jersey
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I know someone who can do second lien positions in Tx.  They'll let you get extended a total of 65% with both liens combined.  So if the first lien let's say takes up 50% of the value, then they'll provide a second lien for 15% of the value.  If the first lien is less than 50% then the second lien can be more and you don't have to break that first mortgage.