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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 11 posts and replied 613 times.

Post: Solving the negative cash flow issue with LA rentals

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@Alexander Monnin

I would say debt service is different for everyone.  People can have different payments even if they put the same amount of money down.

I think cap rate should be used to tell if you are over/under paying for a property.  If you buy at a 6% cap rate in a neighborhood that has a 4% cap rate, then you payed less than what the property is worth.

 Some might say it represents the comparative income generating strength of an investment compared to its price. So the gross revenue generated by a rental property has nothing to do with whether or not property is financed.

Post: The mindset of the Cash Flow investor: LA vs Baltimore

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 @Matt R.:

 You might be assuming initial cash flow equates to total profits?

Clearly you haven't reviewed the initial post. This isn't a cash flow only perspective but total profit which includes appreciation. In markets with extremely strong CFs and somewhat average appreciation, total profit does exceed LA's in some markets. If we start talking Detroit, now you really got yourself in trouble.

Post: The mindset of the Cash Flow investor: LA vs Baltimore

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 @Matt Mason:

I hope this isn't where I get to explain or defend my RE or investment experience. But regarding some of your questions, the intriguing part is whether or not rent remains flat for the entire holding period or if an 8% vacancy rate is used, the primary investment objective is still intact and almost unaffected. 

Even if a 10, 15 or 20% down scenario, and use of conventional financing at 4.07%, the monthly cash flow is still positive. 

In LA however down payment would have to be almost 52% just to break even. The difference is materially profound. It is a fact you cannot ignore.

Post: The mindset of the Cash Flow investor: LA vs Baltimore

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 @Matt R.:

haha... I thought I had a disclaimer in there somewhere that this wasn't meant to hurt anyones feelings :)  LA want a rematch? 

Cool pics by the way. Not even close to the dance team though :) , like a few miles apart. There just seem to be quite a few attack dogs on here lately... maybe someone is upset with my post about airBNB. You sure you dont work for airBNB?

Seriously, where did you get the vacant building pics in Baltimore... looks like a gem for a value add project. Have an address for it?

According to census data -- there actually is more vacant buildings in LA: 93,375 than in Baltimore 54,598 but this wasnt what the post was about. Not trying to bash any city. Just need to park some funds where I can get best monthly positive cash flow. 

No matter how I tell you or anyone else not to take things personal -- it seems that is precisely what they do anyway.

Post: Solving the negative cash flow issue with LA rentals

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@Alexander Monnin I should start answering some of your questions with a question.... So if we really have to get into the theory of things... there is a reason why you use the Cap Rate to evaluate rentals. Debt service is excluded on purpose and the NOI is utilized as the numerator. Want to guess why that is?

Post: When to begin to work in a foreclosure flip ?

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Originally posted by @Patricia Vildozo:

Hello BP members ,
Past Friday, I bought a foreclosure home with hard money financing , classic 12% interest with 10% down. The house needs a lot of work and I'm eager to begin to work on it. As this is a HML, I'll be paying $90+ per day. I have been told that is better to begin to work on it after recording which in my county takes three to four weeks, this is $ 2000+ to the HML pocket and an untouched house . How do you sort this type of issue when buying this type of properties ? I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter
P.S it seems that it has clear title

 Who told you to wait? Lets hope it wasn't the hard money lender. The taxi meter is running.  Your profit takes a hit with each day that passes.

Post: Short sale : appraisal value vs remaining debt

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Originally posted by @Tyheem Joiner:

Hello bigger pockets patrons, 

I am new to real estate development and looking to possibly make a cash offer on a short sale. I am trying to wrap my head around the whole short sales process.

I have heard some conflicting information regarding bank approval process. My understanding is that no matter what number a seller has price and approved for a property, the Lein holder (bank loan agent) will determine what they will accept based on BPO and other factors. Some have said sales price would be worth 10-20% on market value, other have said that discount would be for the debt owed.

My question / confusion is 

1. Would the bank accepted price be based on market value of house or debt remaining on house?

For example if the house market value is 400k, but 125k debt left in loan. 

Will they consider 100k price since it is a 20% discount on the debt owed, require 120k offer or higher, or require price of 320k (20% off market value)?

2. For properties where there may be uncooperative tenants, damage to property and therefore little to no access to house for bank appraisal by BPO, would the bank consider damage and potential issues removing tenants in lowering price.

Thank you in advance for any assistance you all are able to provide me.

The banks are typically well informed about market value.  If property is worth $400,000 and loan balance is only $125,000, they will deny any request to short sale the property at 31% of market value. They would have a very strong motive to let property go into foreclosure.

Post: Analyzing a 50-unit apartment- "The 1% Rule" ?

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Originally posted by @Pete Edmonson:

I have an opportunity to purchase a 50 unit apartment, along with 7 other SFR properties (14 doors total for those) from a retired old-school RE investor. He keeps telling me that he used to buy his properties using the 1% rule, and wants to sell them as such. His explanation of the rule is: If gross monthly rent on SFR is $1,000 ~ House should sell for $100k. If his 7- unit brings in $5,000, he wants to sell it for $500,000, and since the 50 unit apartment brings in $28k gross rent a month, he wants to sell for $2.8 million. I'm in the process of analyzing the apartment financials to make him an offer. But I don't know enough on how to analyze apartments to counter and negotiate. Like I said, he's very old school, has no debt on all his properties, and I know him well enough to know he's not out to swindle me. I can analyze SFR all day long, but very green in the apartment arena. It was a 5 year goal to move in that direction, but this opportunity presented itself 4 years and 3 months early. Any suggestions for analyzing?

 Where exactly is the apartment located? Same thing with the SFRs.

Post: Property owner class action airBNB lawsuit. All owners can join?

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Originally posted by @Troy Whitney:

AirBNB didn't just spring out last night. They have been violating all sorts of laws for several years; finally they are being sued. The landlord here happens to be a corporation whose interest airBNB infringes on... it would be irresponsible not to act. What is baffling is that it took this long for the lawsuit to come out.

I have no Idea why you are getting fined by the authorities in Philly... I can suspect however you have been giving them some sort of grief or violating local ordinances?   :)   so they start hitting you up with all these fines. Thats usually an easy fix -- don't violate local ordinances :)

It is like you said, you don't have the facts about airBNB -- I happen to be aware of what their problem is and how they can resolve it.  Going around suing every city to change their law is just not the way to go.

Post: The mindset of the Cash Flow investor: LA vs Baltimore

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Originally posted by @Matt Mason:

I personally don't see the appeal of owning property thousands of miles away unless it is a hands off NNN, a multifamily operation that has 100-150+ units, or other commercial property.

If I am correct, average home price in Beverly Hills is about $3,000,000. :) 

That isn't exactly an actively sought price point for a majority of renters. Not even close! Sure, owning a personal crib in Beverly Hills isn't too bad an idea, if you are thinking long term appreciation. Its just not a go to market for rental cash flow.


You are also correct, different areas have different strategies. Some markets are pure appreciation, some CF and some both. Think of it this way...if you really like the value add route, you can still do that in a market with strong CF potential. Nothing stops you from buying a value ad rental project in say Baltimore for instance.

Regarding investing out of state, sometimes it is unavoidable. If I happen to live in a market where the prevailing cap rate is 2 or 3% and I feel rental income should be a reasonably sizeable part of my investment strategy, then I will buy in markets with a slightly higher cap to achieve rental income objective. 

You sometimes wont always find abnormal appreciation and cash flow rates in the same market.