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All Forum Posts by: Mitch Messer

Mitch Messer has started 73 posts and replied 2094 times.

Post: Looking for a Contractor in Central PA (Carlisle, Harrisburg, York, Lancaster)

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Francis Obiozor:

I'm an investor located in Harrisburg, PA and currently looking for a contractor for an upcoming project. I’m planning to purchase a 2-to-4-unit multifamily long-term rental within the next 3-4 months and will need help with rehab work—potentially including everything from cosmetic updates to more involved renovations, depending on the property.

I'm specifically focused on properties in:

  • Cumberland County (Carlisle, Mechanicsburg, Camp Hill)
  • Harrisburg
  • York
  • Lancaster

If you have any recommendations or if you're a contractor in these areas, I’d love to connect!


Hey Francis, we've funded a bunch of deals in Harrisburg, so I may be able to help you there.

After all, we electrical engineers should look out for each other!

Post: Need Help Finding A Cash Buyer

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Te'a Baptist:

I was always told that finding a cash buyer is the easiest step when it comes to wholesaling but I've been struggling to get in contact with any. For context I have an on market which I know not many investors are fond of but I'm hoping that I get lucky enough to dispo it anyway. Should I just cancel the contract or keep looking for a buyer and where do I find them? 

Finding a cash buyer is only easy in wholesaling if the deal makes good financial sense.

If you've put this "deal" in front of serious, active buyers, and none of them have jumped on it, then you've got a dud.

Is this a fix-and-flip, a buy-and-hold, or something else?

How did you determine that this would make your cash buyer money? How much would it make them?

Post: Seeking advice - potential eviction

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Cristin Andrews:

Thank you for the response. So you don’t even try to speak with the tenant to negotiate anything first? Or is it a matter of them taking you more seriously once you send the 3 day notice?


Sending the "pay or quit" notice is the first step in the negotiation. Filing for eviction is the next. There's a process here that needs to be consistently followed, for everyone's benefit.

Sure, the tenant is welcome to call me. But it's not like they forgot rent is due. There's no need for more conversation between us.

They must pay. Or move.

Otherwise, off to eviction court we go!

Post: Seeking advice - potential eviction

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792

@Cristin Andrews The very next step is to engage an experienced local attorney who handles evictions and immediately begin the eviction process.

I urge you NOT to delay. 

You'll likely start with a demand letter to the tenant, letting them know exactly how much they owe and instructing them to either pay or move out.

Ask other landlords or your local real estate investors association (REIA) for referrals to find a great attorney who will help you through the exact process.

Fortunately, Texas is relatively fast in evictions. But, YOU have to start!

Good luck!

Post: Hiring a Cold Caller

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
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Quote from @Catie Fihn:

@Mitch Messer  All good points.  The two companies I have interviewed gave me an average number of leads that they pull in per hour and per week.  That is simply a lead, which doesn't necessarily mean it will become a closed deal.  I chose cold-calling because we are in the middle of a battle with Google to get our website back up, and in the meantime, we are assessing the best way to reach motivated sellers.  If we are going to have any calling done for our business, I'd rather outsource that so that we can spend our time finding properties in other ways.  I'm on the fence about mailers, but I know a lot of people have success with them.  May I ask, what is your preferred method of getting leads?


My preferred strategy for getting leads is to contact "tired landlords."

I identify property owners who have recently filed an eviction suit against their tenants, filtering the court data to pick out high-value prospects, as evidenced by:

- plaintiff (landlord) is a natural person, not an LLC, corporation, trust, or apartment complex

- active (unresolved) case status

- large unpaid rent balance

- plaintiff's address is an actual physical address, not a P.O. box

Depending on the state and county, I can usually extract this data directly from public data sources, such as online court systems.

In addition to names and addresses, often this case data includes landlord phone numbers and sometimes email addresses!

I usually text, but one could also call or send direct mail.

We did this when I was wholesaling and focused on Tulsa as my primary market, and I personally closed half a dozen deals there in 2022.

Post: Rent-To-Own ques - deposit/term

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Mona V.:

@Mitch Messer Thank you!! Yes, I meant lease-purchase/option, and not get into seller financing/Dodd-Frank complications. My house is out of state, and I have a full time job so I need help, hence had to get a agent. Don't have much of a choice there. 

Please feel free to advise if you think anything else I should be aware of.

- have LEASE AGREEMENT and OPTION TO PURCHASE as two separate agreements. 

- Breach of the lease should trigger a clause in the RTO contract causing forfeiture of any monies applied.

RTO agreement should not give the buyer an equitable interest which would require something more like a foreclosure than an eviction. There should be no difference between an RTO eviction and a 'regular' eviction.

- not give rent credit (due to Dodd Frank)

- Do you pay the property taxes and the insurance, or the buyer does? I am aware utilities and repairs would be tenant's responsibility. 


Understood. Yes, this is how I would do this.

We pay property taxes as well as a landlord insurance policy. We require the tenant to get a renter's policy, with penalties for non-compliance.

If you're going to market the home as "rent-to-own," consider including a one-page signed addendum that makes it clear the tenant understands they have NO ownership interest in the house and that they are "just" a tenant. (Or, if you have such a statement in your lease, make them initial that clause!)

I would also strongly recommend you have your mortgage broker vet all serious applicants as part of your qualification process to see who actually has a serious shot at qualifying for a mortgage in the future. This will save you tons of wasted time!

Post: Hiring a Cold Caller

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Catie Fihn:

Is it worth it to hire a cold calling company instead of doing the cold-calling myself? The company I am considering states it would call for 4 hours per day, 20 hours per week, and generates an average of 6 leads per week. I have never cold-called before, so unsure if I should do it myself or go straight to hiring someone out. Looking for the pros and cons of both. Thanks!


Serious question: If you did hire them, how would you know if they're any good?

Without some performance benchmarks, I could see you paying out for months with nothing to show for it. Getting 6 leads per week may sound good, but that's only true if these are qualified leads that you can turn into revenue.

I'd definitely want to speak with several of their existing clients to see just how valuable these leads are.

Also, watch out for long-term contracts. These folks are probably going to want you to commit to several months of service, so keep that in mind when you set your budget.

Lastly, it's worth asking if cold-calling is the best way for you to reach prospective clients. (Honestly, it's my least favorite method!)

What made you choose it?

Post: Rent-To-Own ques - deposit/term

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
  • Votes 1,792
Quote from @Mona V.:

I have a house not selling so I thought maybe I should try Rent-to-Own on it. Read a book and whatever I could find online. 

Was curious what is the general deposit calculation pros on biggerpockets use for rent-to-own - 5/10/15%? Do you advertise this percentage, or it varies from applicant to applicant?

What is the general term of option contract (2/3/4 yrs), do you base it on their credit score (accounting for the amount of time they would take in fixing the their credit) ?

I also have a realtor currently for sale of the house with x% commission. If house is rented then commission is one month's rent How does it work with rent-to-own, since house has really not sold, same as rental?  

Thanks!

I avoid the term "rent-to-own" since some may confuse it with seller financing.

I think you're referring to here is a "lease-purchase" or "lease-option" (depending on the paperwork used).

If so, I've spent two decades doing EXACTLY these types of deals, and I LOVE them!

Here are my responses to your questions:

1. Upfront payment: We aimed for between an amount equal to 2 months rent up to 5% of the purchase price. This should be referred to as the earnest money deposit (for a lease-purchase) or option consideration (for a lease-option). Be careful NEVER to call this a security deposit, because it's completely non refundable if they don't buy.

2. Term: We gave everyone 1 year (regardless of credit score), with the opportunity to extend (at a higher price) if they weren't quite ready to buy when the term is up. We found that giving more time upfront didn't attract better qualified residents.

3. Commissions: I recommend not doing this with an agent involved, because you'll likely have to pay a commission on the rental AND on the sale.

Hope this helps.

Good luck!

Post: SBA Grant Question

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
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Quote from @Michelle Eastland:

Hello Everyone my name is Michelle Eastland and I am new to bigger pockets. I recently started a Real Estate Investing Business and I am currently building my funding. I came across someone that is a professional grant writer and I wanted to know if it is common for grant writers to charge a fee upfront and an additional percentage of the grant you win? If anyone is knowledgeable in this area it would mean a lot to hear someone else's  point of view outside of the research that I have already done.


Before you consider giving anyone money upfront to help you "win a grant," I urge you to ask them to provide you with names and phone numbers of 2-3 former clients who actually received money.

As far as I know, the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) does not offer grants to start a business, but rather offers funding and support programs for existing small businesses.

If your goal is to become a real estate investor, then I recommend you learn how to analyze, recognize and structure great deals instead.

Post: Looking for mentor

Mitch MesserPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Playa del Carmen, México
  • Posts 2,241
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Quote from @Dominic Joseph Jean:
Quote from @Mitch Messer:
Quote from @Dominic Joseph Jean:

@Mitch Messer 

I understand, 

Where are you in your real estate journey? 


For the next three months, sunny México! 😁


 Thats awesome, you going just for vacation? 


No, this is home, for now.  We've been doing the #digitalnomad thing since 2018!

Before that, it was 3 months in Medellín, Colombia!

We don't do "cold." 😁