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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 6 posts and replied 22 times.

Post: Deland, FL

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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@David D'AmbrosioAre you still looking in these areas?  I am not an RE Agent but I can provide you some good info and maybe help you look.  I've lived in Volusia County since '81.

Post: Single Family or Multiple Tenants?

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@Stacie JohnsonPlease share more about the what the thought process is....?!  

P.S. I love the perspective of the appreciation differences.

Post: Sebonic Financial - Seeking Opinions

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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I called them today.  The gentleman I spoke to stated they have no lender's fees or points.  Their income is made when they sell the loan to Fannie Mae.  I was quoted $2,400 for appraisal and title work. Sounds fantastic if you ask me.

Post: Looking for Buy and hold investment opportunities in SaltLakeCity

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Originally posted by @Steve Theobald:

Cindy, Aloha!  So you want to "make a SMART investment for long term income."

Candor is one of my strengths.  Uh...  weaknesses..  uh ???  

I have given away a lot of my secrets to investors.  Let's see if I can do it again... 

Nobody can go see all the possible great rentals that hit the market each day, and the only sane thing to do is make some assumptions to narrow the search field:   (1) Rents are consistent by bedroom count for each neighborhood.  (2) A rental rehab costs less than a flip rehab.  (3) If done carefully, single family homes and multi-family units CAN be adequately compared side-by-side for return potential.  (4) Everyone wants the same deals, so you have to move FAST.  (5)  The market is extremely tight right now, but there are still some needles in the haystack.  (6)  To find the very best deals, always do your own marketing to find motivated sellers, but continue to work with wholesalers and agents who can send some deals your way.

As a Utah realtor I have the best Utah data at my finger tips, and nobody loves the data more than me! (Yes, there are a few other crazy data hounds out there.) I currently use over 1600 rental data points each day to try to pinpoint the top Single Family and Multi-Family rentals in Utah, Salt Lake, Davis, Weber and Tooele counties. (Sorry, no Park City, since that is on a different Realtor board). Yes, most agents can get the same data, but few can last more than a few weeks with all the numbers floating around or program a simple spreadsheet adequately to extract the golden nuggets. But they are out there! Until you master your own deal finding, and since 80% of the deals are on the MLS, I recommend you work closely with an agent. At a minimum, an agent can set up multiple "hot sheet" searches to find rentals that meet "The 1% Rule" (monthly rent must equal 1% of the purchase price).

The second step after determining potentially good rental spreads is to get a close estimate on rehab costs. If there are pictures on the MLS, then you are off to a great start. For a flip, I recommend $10 per square foot plus $10,000 as a rough guide. For a rental, you can cut it in half. Older properties need more $$$. You will confirm your numbers later.

Third step. Once you have a few properties that are interesting to you, you need to compare them side by side. At this stage, you can do a blind offer, or you can make the seller and the listing agent happy and actually go SEE the homes to refine your numbers. (What a concept!) Unless you just love Property X and must have it at all costs, I am guessing you are trying to get a good, stable RETURN on your money. So as you compare, don't forget taxes, insurance, vacancy, maintenance, and property management. Once you are confident you have all the data fairly accurate, then look at the Cash on Cash Return for the first year. If you want to, you can also figure a cap rate, the gross yield, and the Internal Rate of Return, which is like the CCR but uses 5 to 10 years using the annual cash flows. But the CCR is usually adequate to get started.

Four.  The market is HOT right now.  You either must be willing to pay close to full price or just wait for a few months.  Is it too hot?  Is is overpriced?  Not in Salt Lake.  But there are some great returns in other states, in other markets too.  Since you are in Hawaii, you should look all over.  Once you decide to make an offer, don't get caught up in the multiple offer game.  Decide your max offer and then stick to it.  There will be other deals.  The "newbies" who "must get a deal" will not last long in the market.  Take your time.  Be a professional.  This is a business, not a hobby.

I have heard people accuse investors of always chasing the highest return to the exclusion of safety and prudence.   Perhaps they are suggesting that deferred maintenance is not always factored in, or something else.  For example, the roof on a 4 plex that already has two layers is going to cost you at least 3 months of income WHEN it needs replacing.   Hmmm.  Will that be year 3 or year 7 or 12?  There are certainly lots of variables to consider!  

Few agents will ever try to convince you to NOT buy a house.  Please find one who is not afraid to explore the downside dangers with you--one who wants to help you buy five houses and not just one--one who is doing enough business to not ever send any sales pressure your way.  The deal must always stand on its own!!!

Whew!  . . . I think that is enough candor for one night.

 That's a ton of info.  Thanks for sharing that.  

Post: Sebonic Financial - Seeking Opinions

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Thanks for sharing your personal experience!

Do you mind if I ask who you ended up using?

Post: Sebonic Financial - Seeking Opinions

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Thanks everybody for the input.  I'm going to contact them and see what they offer.  Have a great day!

Post: Sebonic Financial - Seeking Opinions

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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I see Sebonic Financial listed quite a bit in ad screens for various real estate listing sites (Zillow, Trulia, etc.)  Has anyone had any experience with this company? 

Post: App Upgrades: Tool Additions

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Thirded!

Post: Triplex For Sale - Realtor is Owner - Need Advice

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
  • It is always fun and challenging to look at a potential profitable situation in real estate.
  • Michael, this is what I'd like to know. These answers would help me decide in what direction to go in; offer/settle/hold, control and assign, public auction, refer out or walk away.
  • The comps, what are they selling for in the area, need to get real good comparable sales as a bench mark to potential value
  • The mortgage balance, current with payments or in the arrears
  • Mortgage payment amount, interest rate, terms - how many years, any balloon payment?
  • Any judgments on the property or outstanding liens (maybe they can negotiated for a discount)
  • Condition of the property, does it need any up-grades, repairs, landscaping? How much would they be?
  • Why selling? How long on the market?
  • Does the seller have to go through the real estate company
  • Vacant or occupied
  • How soon does the seller want to settle
  • What is included in the sale or what can the seller add; all the furniture, the appliances, cash back at settlement, the car in the garage?
  • How much will the seller finance, on a first or second?
  • Who is the Mortgagee (lender), can we negotiate a discount?
  • Who are the decision makers, wife, partner, boyfriend, aunt, rich uncle?
  • What in your opinion is the seller's true motivation?
  • Has he had any offers? How much, when, why not accepted, was it a written or verbal offer? Can you see their written offer?
  • Is there more than one mortgage? Are there back taxes due, how much and how far back? Is the property in tax sales - get all details. (can you take an assignment of the tax sale certificate?
  • What is the vacancy rate? How often does the owner file rent notices, how may tenants are back in their rent?
  • What's the condition of the units?
  • Fill out a APOD - annual property operating data form
  • Determine what the true CAP rate is based on the asking price, develop your own CAP rate based on the NOI. Make offer to satisfy your investment projections.

I think you'll see, by getting all this information, you'd be in a better position to create an offer.

Some potential offers:

  1. 1. Contract of sale subject to a delayed settlement with right of possession, always use a short contact form (a skinny contract of sale).
  2. 2. Hybrid offer, making the owner/seller your partner. This is an opportunity  to share the advertising cost.
  3. 3. A 1031 exchange using one of your equities
  4. 4. A study period - give you time to find the missing parts of the deal or to analyze the true assignment value.
  5. 5. Form a Friendly Joint Venture.

My thoughts, good luck.....Charles

 Wow, thank you for all of the great insight!! The context that I'm gathering is that these questions are rhetorical or for me to find out, but this is what I know right now. 

The property is co-owned with the realtor's brother.  They had a falling out over a new roof last year so she wants to get out of it so it doesn't damage the relationship.  I believe her on this one.  

The two one bedrooms in the back are occupied and one of the tenants have been there for 6 years.  

I looked at the taxes and they are current.  

She is supposed to send me the financials.  

I'm not opposed to buying out the brother's interest and become partners with the realtor. I also have someone who could put up 75% of the down payment and me the remaining. The offer could be me to manage the property yet split the ownership 50/50.  But I don't want to bring that to the table just yet if I can swing it myself or with the current owner.

The hurdle I'm trying to get over is the 25% down because I don't have it.  I have $20k but the less I can put out of pocket, the better, for another property.  If the numbers work out, I will find a way!

Thank you again!

Post: Triplex For Sale - Realtor is Owner - Need Advice

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  • Ormond Beach, FL
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I found a Triplex for sale for $219,000.

It consists of:

Main House 3/2 (Could rent for $1,100)

Apt 1 - 1/1 Occupied $500/mo

Apt 2 - 1/1 Occupied $500/mo

Taxes - $2,200

Insurance - $1,300? (Guesstimate)

Vacancy - 7%

Repairs - 7%

CapEx - 3%

I would self-manage the property.

I'd like to approach the owner for owner financing.  Since this is my first deal, what type of terms would you offer?  If there's any additional info needed for your opinions, please let me know.  Thanks in advance!!