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All Forum Posts by: Omar T Sharaf

Omar T Sharaf has started 8 posts and replied 26 times.

Post: BRRR Success Story Saint Paul Minnesota

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

@Rashad K. Such an Inspiring post!! I am in the education phase of my investing career and BRRRR strategy is the path I am eager to follow.

What would you say was most helpful or strategy in building your team?

Post: Manufactured homes for first investment!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

Thanks for the advice Rachel. Unfortunately this mobile home I looked at requires to much structural work. Swing and a miss. 

-Omar

Post: Manufactured homes for first investment!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Mark Kendall:
Originally posted by @Omar T Sharaf:
Originally posted by @Mark Kendall:

I bought and rehabbed 10 mobile homes and owned a small mobile home park in South Carolina. I'd say the only thing I didn't like about the business was plumbing. Here's my 2 cents:

1. Polybutylene is a water piping that was used in many mobile homes from the 70s through the early 90s. There was a billion dollar class action lawsuit against the manufacturer in the 90s and polybutylene can no longer be used under US building codes. The polybutylene gets pinhole leaks that have to be stopped. Plumbers will recommend re-plumbing the whole home. The re-plumbing will cost more than the mobile home is worth. But, maybe it will be worth it.

2. The other issue is many mobile homes are on septic tanks. As a rule of thumb, those septic tanks have a lifespan of 30 years. So, if it's a 1978 on a septic, does that septic have any issues? 

Otherwise, I like mobile homes. There's always a need for more inexpensive housing and as an investor you get a lot of ROI.

 Thanks so much for that insight Mark. Due to corona Virus I cant get into the property. But I did go and view the outside today and it did not look to good. Rotted wood on roof, "I think this is siding" and is in dire need of landscaping. 

When analyzing a mobile home, what condition do you say this is not worth it. The property was assessed at 21k but he is asking 39k. For the work to be done it appears he is asking a bit much. Also this area is a low income neighborhood. There are brick homes in this neighborhood and mobile homes. 

Given that mobile homes only depreciate, what are the incentives for this investment besides cash flow?

When you did your rehabs was it ever structural or just cosmetics?

Most of the rehabs I did were cosmetic. Clean the floors, paint, put in a new A/C unit, light landscaping, etc. The biggest project I ever did was putting in a subfloor and laying new laminate. I did the work myself and vowed never to try it again.

All of my fix and flips were done within mobile home parks. I would approach mobile home park managers and ask if they had any mobile homes in their park that they would allow me as an investor to fix and flip.  I was able to buy them for $2,000-$8,000. I'd then put another few grand in rehab. Flip it or owner finance to buyer and double my money. I did that in South and North Carolina. I wouldn't know what the NY market is like. 

I later owned a small mobile home park for a couple of years, but I got out due to several reasons, but much of it was because of plumbing and septic as I mentioned before. 

I at one point I owned 2 mobile homes on 1/2 acre lot that I purchased for...I think it was $31k. The two rents together brought in $950 a month. Renters where already in place when I purchased. Very similar to your deal. I sold it 1.5 years later for $48k.

I am going to take this under consideration. I feel this deal might require more structural, but again hard to tell because I cant get in the property! 

Thanks again Mark!

Post: Manufactured homes for first investment!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Mark Kendall:

I bought and rehabbed 10 mobile homes and owned a small mobile home park in South Carolina. I'd say the only thing I didn't like about the business was plumbing. Here's my 2 cents:

1. Polybutylene is a water piping that was used in many mobile homes from the 70s through the early 90s. There was a billion dollar class action lawsuit against the manufacturer in the 90s and polybutylene can no longer be used under US building codes. The polybutylene gets pinhole leaks that have to be stopped. Plumbers will recommend re-plumbing the whole home. The re-plumbing will cost more than the mobile home is worth. But, maybe it will be worth it.

2. The other issue is many mobile homes are on septic tanks. As a rule of thumb, those septic tanks have a lifespan of 30 years. So, if it's a 1978 on a septic, does that septic have any issues? 

Otherwise, I like mobile homes. There's always a need for more inexpensive housing and as an investor you get a lot of ROI.

 Thanks so much for that insight Mark. Due to corona Virus I cant get into the property. But I did go and view the outside today and it did not look to good. Rotted wood on roof, "I think this is siding" and is in dire need of landscaping. 

When analyzing a mobile home, what condition do you say this is not worth it. The property was assessed at 21k but he is asking 39k. For the work to be done it appears he is asking a bit much. Also this area is a low income neighborhood. There are brick homes in this neighborhood and mobile homes. 

Given that mobile homes only depreciate, what are the incentives for this investment besides cash flow?

When you did your rehabs was it ever structural or just cosmetics?

Post: Manufactured homes for first investment!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

What is the land lease?  unless you own the land underneath you will be paying a monthly land lease to the park owner, which at least in my area could be $800 per month alone, closer to the beach it could be $2,000 per month for the land lease.

Thanks for you response Aaron. The property comes with the land. 

Post: Manufactured homes for first investment!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

Hello,

I'm looking at my first property to buy, it just went on the market last night. It is a 2 bed 1 bath manufactured home. Asking price is 39,000. Year is 1978. I ran numbers conservatively on it and it works. I can get 800 a month in rent. I will be financing this with 20 percent down. Have not walked the property yet, but my realtor is working with the seller to let me walk it.

Please any advice from experienced manufacture homs investors. What should I be focused on when it comes to these types of homes. I understand they do not appreciate. I plan on doing a minor rehab in the property based on video floors need updating a possibly kitchen and bathroom. Is this a good idea to rehab or rent as is current condition. Condition is not unlivable just not modern looks.

Is there anything I left out that I'm not looking at?

Post: What Grass Seed Should I Use?

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

Anyone have recommendations on what type of grass seed product I should use. I live in upstate New York, so weather conditions are majority cold.

Post: HELP. Time sensitive question!!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

Hello Trent, Thank you so much for the response. 

So the property is a Single Family home. I was planning on doing the property management myself. I am not yet at the buying stage. 

Was I too early in asking for an investment? 

I have done all my initial investigation, and number crunching with my realtor to conclude this is a deal to chase. 

I was going to propose to give him a percentage between 10-20 of the cash flow received. Does this seem to be a good proposition? 

Also when you get a private investor, do they have to be on the loan with you?

Post: HELP. Time sensitive question!!

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

Hello,

I am brand new to real estate investing. I have a buy and hold property that is going to bring positive cash flow.

I reached out to a private investor to get the capital on the intial investment for the property. I have a meeting tommrow.

How do I propose a payback? What's the best methods?

Post: Dave Ramsey is a Genius now

Omar T SharafPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Peru, NY
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 4

@Jill F. Very well said. 👍