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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Osterling

Patrick Osterling has started 3 posts and replied 42 times.

Post: Mid term, keep short term or long term

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

Hi @Erika Martinez - can you post your property here for people to see? It's very difficult to provide accurate feedback without seeing what your listing looks like. Perhaps there's a few tweaks you can make with your current STR to generate more income, or maybe MTR might be a better route, but without seeing the actual product (property) there's a big piece of the puzzle missing for us.

Post: Does BNBcalc.com work?

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

We pull data from PriceLabs on 1,000 to 5,000 listings in the area, then narrow it down to the best dozen or two comps, then average out the annual revenue, occupancy, average daily rates etc. We focus on properties with a similar bedroom count (or that sleep the same number of guests), similar style, location, amenities, good reviews and availability. 

That’s been the most accurate way we’ve found to analyze properties. Tools like BNBCalc and AirDNA are great starting points, but there are just way too many variables to rely on a quick address search. It takes a little extra digging, but in our experience, it’s 100% worth the effort. Hope this helps!

Post: How much do I set aside to furnish a new STR?

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

Hey Christine, we just furnished a 3BD, 2.5BA 1550 SqFt upscale house for around $14,000 all in. My wife is a wizard at sourcing great furniture and decor that balances quality and price. We also used a 0% APR Chase credit card and paid it off with the cash flow so we were less out of pocket upfront. Hope this helps!

Post: Lake Tahoe STRs

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

Hi @Kwanza P. I second what @Bradley Buxton said. With several different counties across 2 states, and regulations constantly changing, it can be a bit challenging to figure out. I'd suggest working with a good realtor that knows what they're doing! There's still good deals to be had. We currently manage a portfolio of 10+ STR's in Tahoe and Reno. You might want to consider looking at Reno actually, which is a growing area, the prices are a lot more attractive, taxes are lower than CA, no fire insurance issues, and generally a solid under the radar market. You can still squeeze out a 15-20% cash on cash return with the right strategy. Happy to chat anytime.

Post: Frequency of washing comforters?

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

I highly recommend using a duvet with an insert vs a comforter, it’s much more sanitary. Our cleaners put a freshly washed duvet cover on after every use. We provide extra duvet covers in the supply closet, and they don’t take long to wash. It’s the same process hotels use too. 

Post: Are Remote Work Trends Changing the Game for Vacation Rentals?

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

Hey Robert, the data shows remote work is here to stay. Before 2020, only about 8% of remote-capable employees worked exclusively from home. Recent figures show that 26% now work exclusively remotely, and 55% have adopted a hybrid model, combining remote and on-site work. Either way you slice it, people have way more flexibility. We even We always offer and highlight work desks/chairs, sometimes a monitor and fast internet. I think it's a staple for STR's. We just had someone check out an hour later at our lake house property because she had a work zoom meeting she needed to be on.

Post: MTR Advice to Increase Activity

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

Hey @Michael Smythe, is there any way to get the water mark off the pictures? It might seem trivial, but marketing photos are really important and it gives off a strange vibe to have those water marks on every single photo. Just my 2 cents. 

Post: South Lake Tahoe’s STR ban overturned

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33

@Bradley Buxton - My understanding is Measure T was supposed to help with affordable housing and cut down on neighborhood issues, but it doesn’t seem like it actually did much. Housing prices are higher than ever, and I haven’t seen any real proof that it created more long-term rentals. Most of those STRs just turned into second homes that sit empty most of the time or were converted into 30+ day rentals, which still doesn’t solve the housing issue. I’ve talked to several owners recently, and they either leave their place vacant or try to rent it out monthly, but it’s not exactly making housing more affordable for locals. If they push for a full ban, wouldn’t that hurt the local economy even more? South Lake Tahoe runs on tourism, there has to be a better way to find a balance.

Post: How much will my bank lend me?

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Matt Devincenzo:
Quote from @Patrick Osterling:

Thanks @Collin Hays! More favorable terms sounds great to me, and I've heard this strategy before, but I'm not sure I understand how it works in practical terms. Could you share an example or two how that actually works in practical terms? For example, I've used several banks for loans: Flagstar Bank, All Western Mortgage (a broker), PenFed Credit Union (HELOC), NewRez and probably a couple others I'm forgetting. None of which I never actually met in person. But are you saying to find a local bank branch and physically go in and develop a personal relationship with a banker? If so, how many deals/loans do we need to do before I can expect more favorable terms? How do you know which bank/banker to establish a relationship with? What if I like a banker but another bank is offering better terms on the first couple deals? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around how to actually make this happen in today's world. Thank you!


 I'll give you a great local example...I go to church with the bank president. The bank is here in San Diego and is Endeavor Bank. He and his partner have been in the SoCal business bank world for 40+ years, and entered it at a time when local banking was what businesses did. They both were up in the Glendale area for 15-20 years or more, and were very involved with the local business community. After living through the GFC and the shrinking market for local banks, they saw an opening in the market for what they call "consultative banking" like they had years before and decided to start a bank. This 'consultative' approach means their business clients come in talk through problems and they try to provide a bit of outside business 'coaching' if you will, or connect you with another client who can assist. They want to help your business grow so that their bank will grow with you. 

The other component here is understanding the bank's business as well. Collin mentioned a local bank that is keen on having Dr.s as clients, Endeavor is a local SoCal business bank, others could be agricultural or manufacturing oriented...some in the news recently for failing were VC and crypto centric. The point is if you're a consumer banking customer you don't offer what their business model is designed for. So consider your banking offerings and then search for local banks that cater to that.


 Thanks, Matt! Makes sense. I'll look out for local banks in my community and start some conversations. 

Post: running a STR in SLC

Patrick Osterling
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  • California/Nevada
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 33
Quote from @Ryan Moyer:
Quote from @Patrick Osterling:

Hey @Justin Brown, I agree with the comments above. But to answer your question why you still see so many active STR's on Airbnb in a restricted area, it could be a couple things: It could be a "hosted rental" meaning the homeowner is there and is just renting rooms on Airbnb. It could also be that although many municipalities do have laws that restrict STR's, they rarely have the time, resources and manpower to actually enforce those rules. I've sat on city council meetings where a county will straight up say they can make changes to the laws, but they don't have the resources to actually enforce them. Although you might be able to get away with it for a while, all it would take is for a neighbor to call in and you could get shut down or fined. Just my 2 cents. 


It's mostly the middle one. SLC doesn't really enforce it very strictly. But it's playing with fire to buy there if STR is a priority as it's very likely they will eventually start enforcing it better.

Yes I've seen this same thing in some of the markets we operate in. But I haven't seen them start enforcing anything yet. Like you said, it is playing with fire though...