All Forum Posts by: Paul Woodburn

Had a talk with a close real estate agent today (Manages about a 100+ agent office). I've known him a long time and decided to approach him to gain some info/network. After an initial discussion with him, he came back to me and told me investors he works with have started lending money to house flippers and have stopped flipping themselves. As I follow the market it seems that homes are being valued and listed higher than their actual worth and many buyers are willing to pay more for less. Thoughts on the current state of the market for flipping?

Kyle,

Thank You very much for your input and analysis. I do not have access to that tool but I can imagine the fundamental numbers and calcs it uses to come up with that cash flow (mortgage, repairs, taxes, etc). 60k would be on the high end of what I am will to spend (Factor of Safety). What I see is a cash deal on that would return my investment in 6 years 100 percent give or take. My actual target purchase price is 35 - 50k and I have a target list of homes I think are obtainable and only need minimal repairs in the 10k dollar range.

What I really want to gain insight on is the end game "construction". What are the KEY metrics a rental income investor would want to see (specific percentages generally, dollar amounts, etc). My goal is to create a rental report and sell the home using that report to change its value (in addition to my small repairs). If this does not work I am comfortable with those rental returns myself.

Good luck on your future deals and I appreciate all input.  

Hello, I am a new real estate investor recently out of college. I have been searching for a while now for a good fix and flip property that has a high enough margin where I am comfortable committing my limited capital and time to. I have found that in the current market (Maryland, DC, VA) areas many home buyers are going in well above asking. This escalates my perceived risk as well because this trend is not sustainable and I am hesitant to change how I evaluate a properties value just because others are buying them at higher prices (going back to price is what you pay value, is what you get...). The housing market is a whole other discussion. I have stumbled across a weird niche market that has sparked my interest and wanted to hear feedback and comments.

There is a local area near me that has a strong job market and average population (relative to surrounding areas), but the home prices are selling at a de-valued figure. I did some quick research and figured I could purchase a 2-3 br, 1-2 bath home for around 60k in rent ready condition and turn around and rent it for a minimum of $1000 up to $1500 monthly, which would on average pay for the investment of the home in about 5 years barring any major repairs or set backs. (The property taxes are practically negligible at such a low evaluation). IMO any rental real estate investor who owns and operates rentals would jump at this kind of ROI.

The main reason I want to flip homes now instead of beginning to build a rental portfolio is to raise capital faster and accelerate my business and then diversify as it grows. My question is as a rental income investor what kind of metrics would you be looking for from a sale to show you that it is a good investment for you. My idea is to buy one of these properties and do curb appeal and lipstick renovations quickly and get renters in the unit. Then I want to put the property up for sale at a higher price and flip the property based on the rental income generation. 

I listened to a podcast (maybe bigger pockets or another im not sure) that said this kind of increasing the value in single family homes is not a good business practice and it is only applicable in commercial real estate, but I want to think by lipsticking and setting up a renter and income from a cheaper property in a strong location would be like tossing a softball in to an investor looking to invest in rental properties. 

Any and all feed back is appreciated. Not only I am looking for feasability feedback, but ideas on what data to present on the back end as well as how to present it and advertise it to the right people. Thanks in advance for your thoughts, Paul