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All Forum Posts by: Roman A Elizarov

Roman A Elizarov has started 8 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: A Humble Beginning in Real Estate Investment = a Modest Townhouse in Hammond, IN

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

“Real estate investing, even on a very small scale, remains a tried and true means of building an individual’s cash flow and wealth.”
Robert Kiyosaki

For me, the path to financial security wasn't paved with stocks and bonds but rather with bricks and mortar, as I embarked on a journey into real estate investment. Working 3,000 hours a year for 4 years in a row, I realized that only investments can save me from poverty at the end of my days. But I did not want to invest in the stock market (I just know nothing about this market). So I collected information about the real estate market in the USA and looked for houses to buy with the help of loans and rent them out. One rule helped here (I simplify a lot): you should always count how much money will be left in your pocket after all expenses (including mortgage payments, taxes, fees, utilities, as well as the reserve fund for the current repairs of the property). If, in principle, I can make it so that I have extra income left over after deducting all expenses, I have a positive cash flow.

Seasoned investors use certain metrics to calculate cash flow. For example, at the very beginning, I liked Cash-on-cash return, CoCR, which is a great measure of return for rental properties.

CoCR measures the proportion of income received from a rental property in a year to the amount of cash invested in the property over the same period (one year, or 12 months). Here is a specific example of the calculation as I did it in the beginning. It's very conservative, which gives you less chance of making mistakes when investing (I'm only saying what I think - it doesn't work for everyone and not always).

So...

On February 8th, 2021, my family purchased our first rental property - a tiny townhouse 2 beds / 1 bath in Hammond, North West Indiana, built in 1945. The sale price of the house was $80,000. My spouse and I invested money as a down payment - that was 20% of the price of the house, or $16,000. In addition, we had to pay all the closing costs, which rounded up to $4,000. After that, I did some serious renovations and invested another $5,000 (I do not calculate my time to make those renovations myself, but, anyway, it is a good starting point).

Each month I have to pay the mortgage, taxes, and insurance premiums totaling $550, or $550 x 12 months = $6,600. For two months of the "dead period" (see below), I will also pay utilities of $200 per month - that is, $400.

My total investment in the house is as follows:

$16,000 {20% downpayment)

+ $4,000 {closing costs}

+ $5,000 {rehab costs}

+ $6,600 {total payments of mortgage, taxes, and insurance for the first year}

+ $400 {utilities for the period of holding costs}

= $32,000.

At the same time, the gross monthly income on this property was $1,200. In the first month, the house was not rented out, as repairs were being made and we had no tenants. This period is called "holding costs" - the costs to keep the house for some time before you get cash flow. It turns out that for a year, minus the first "dead" month, I assume to extract a return of $12,000 (I also deducted one additional month based on the assumption of the necessary "additional investments" in repairs annually): $1,200 * 10 months = $12,000.

Cash-on-cash return = Real estate income received for the year before taxes/amount invested.

With a gross monthly income of $1,200, the townhouse emerged as a beacon of financial promise in the sea of uncertainty. Despite the initial setbacks, we got a remarkable cash-on-cash return of 37.5%, far surpassing industry standards: Cash-on-cash return (Hammond Townhouse) = $12,000/$32,000 = 0.375 = 37.5%.

We bid farewell to our beloved townhouse on April 26th, 2023, when it was sold for $129,000, as we embarked on a new chapter of our life - now in South 

West Florida. The appreciation of this property by 48.25% (129,000 sale price -10,000 closing costs - 80,000 we bought it for/80,000 = 48.75%) in just two years stood as a testament to the transformative power of real estate investment.

See the house here: https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/723-169th-...

P. S. The presented pics of the house were taken after remodeling in February-March 2021

Post: South Side Chicago Bad Investment came to Profit 4 years after

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Investment Info:

Single-family residence fix & flip investment in Chicago.

Purchase price: $63,850
Cash invested: $214,000
Sale price: $265,000

I invested more than $150,000 in the renovation, and purchased for cash for $63,000 in November 2018. The house passed full gut rehab. Finally, it was sold on May 17, 2023, for $265,000 (check it out: https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/8903-S-Union-Ave-60620/home/13108431). In the short term the investment was not profitable, in the long run, appreciation and market changes gave me some moderate profit.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

That was my first investment - not really profitable.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Foreclosure. Bought as is for cash

How did you finance this deal?

Full cash

How did you add value to the deal?

Full gut rehab with a lot of reno 2/1 -> 4/2. All floors are livable (before only one floor was used). Fully remodelled house, garage, new huge one level deck in the back yard, fenced yard. New roof, new windows, new siding outside, new HVAC system, new pipes and wiring, etc.

What was the outcome?

265,000-6%*265,000-214,000 (all cash invested) = $35,100, but 4 and 1/2 years after

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Choose the right deal first, use OPM, do not put all your time in it, find better neighborhood, never live in the house which is in the rehab stage!

Post: How Bad Investment in a Bad Neighborhood Reversed to a Good One Occasionally

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Pictures of this house before

Post: How Bad Investment in a Bad Neighborhood Reversed to a Good One Occasionally

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Pictures of this house before

Post: How Bad Investment in a Bad Neighborhood Reversed to a Good One Occasionally

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Pictures of this house before

Post: How Bad Investment in a Bad Neighborhood Reversed to a Good One Occasionally

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

"The world doesn't come to the clever folks, it comes to the stubborn, obstinate, one-idea-at-a-time people."

Mary Roberts Rinehart

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."

George Orwell

In this small story, I want to show you how I entered into real estate investments, making bad mistakes, taking risks, living in a depressed neighborhood and finally making some profit.

My family came to the US in December 2016. We did not have much money, no work, no experience, and a lot of hopes and fears. One of the hopes I had was to find my way in real estate investments. I was inspired by Robert Kiyosaki's book... you all know the name of it!

In November 2018, I purchased a $63,000 ruined house on the South Side of Chicago, in an African-American neighborhood, and started renovating it, both with my own hands and with outside experts in plumbing, electrical, etc. By February 2019, I had already invested about $60,000 in this house. No loans were involved, so I had no more cash at that time, and "the cart was still there" - that is, the house required a GIGANTIC investment (and they exceeded the planned).

In February 2019, my two kids, my wife, and I were living in a one-bedroom apartment in a very old house with poor repairs, but in the heart of downtown Chicago. We were living in poor conditions just for the sake of a very good school. My spouse Luba at that point was very tired of these living conditions, the income instability, and the investment in the house, which she felt was my personal big mistake. But I insisted that I would renovate the property one way or another, even though it was clear at that point that the project could only be unprofitable. Luba once demanded that I sell this house "as is", for any money.

In February 2019, I had almost no work, and I decided to attend a seminar about real estate investments. The three-day seminar was (and is) led by some pretty well-known investors and realtors in Chicago. I gave a short presentation of my house with calculations of the money invested in it and offered these investors how much money they could give for it. They offered no more than $60,000. You may think I wanted to sell the house. Absolutely not. I wanted to make sure it was an unreasonable loss of the huge (to me) cash flow I had gained by working over 3,000 hours a year in the construction sphere. So, these smart-*** investors gave me a good "kick in the butt" - and I started investing my time on weekends, in the evenings, when there were no outside orders.

By December 2019, the house was 80% complete, we moved in in May 2020, and I kept improving it until February 2021, when the kids got the second floor as their bedrooms and the basement as a gym for their workouts.

The "dark side" of this process of living is here. We moved to the South Side of Chicago in May 2020. My wife and I had a conflict about this. She was very afraid of moving to this neighborhood because there was a strong belief among Americans and Russian-speaking immigrants that this neighborhood was criminal, full of murderers, drug dealers, and thieves. This was (and still is) partially true, but ... danger always looks bigger through the eyes of fear.

My wife was scared of driving there (not even walking). I put her and the kids to the test. And for that, I apologize to them. It took almost three years of our lives, and we had no normal socializing (we avoided it, to be honest). I have experience living in Kazan, USSR, during the Kazan Syndrome period (gangs on the streets in 1984 -1989), and I know exactly what kind of people they are, so I had no desire to socialize and make friends.

But there are also good sides to the story about this property.

First of all, the kids practiced at one of the best tennis clubs for free, because they lived on the South Side of Chicago - that's the mission of the club: to help local residents. I don't think they expected Russian immigrants to live there, but anyway.

Secondly, the children switched to Home Schooling (online education) much earlier - before the pandemic started. This move was motivated by the desire to play tennis professionally, and such lessons involve schedules that are at odds with those of any school other than online. Thus, living in a depressed neighborhood, we were not tied to a low-rating school.

In 2021, the real estate market rose beyond expectations. Real estate price increases in one year ranged from 20 to 40% across the US. Our house, in which I invested more than $150,000, purchased for $63,000, could be sold in February 2021 in that repair for $225,000 (which already made sense: if I sold - I would not lose anything, at least). In January-February 2022 the price of this property could be more than $300,000. The growth was unreal and exceeded all my calculations (very conservative, by the way).

Was I lucky? I just didn't want to lose everything and kept working, "making things beautiful". However, I did not do everything perfectly (many things - for the first time in my life). Nevertheless, the house was renovated. Finally, it was sold on May 17, 2023, for $265,000 (check it out: https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/8903-S-Union-Ave-60620/home/13108431). In the short term the investment was not profitable, in the long run, appreciation and market changes gave me some moderate profit. It did not make my pockets bigger, but it did not let me fall.

Post: Cape Coral / Ft. Myers Market Update Feb 2024

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

What a great and clear analysis! Thank you! Compared to those predictions I read earlier, this is the most real one.

Post: Is Cape Coral FL a good place for real estate investors?

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16
Allen Wu, you are right! I am very concerned. Moreover the MLS prices even for distressed property never get into 1% rule. Plus these insurance rate averaged $6,000 /year, so $500 / month... Many things are going worse. I bought a house here but I am still remodeling. Anyway, this one house will go STR in 2 years. On the other hand, Fort Myers Beach and Yacht Clun in Cape Coral are coming back to life - the traffic is crazy. Maybe there are some good signs.

P. S. Thank you for this article. I have found it. The link is here for thse who are interested: https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2024/02/14/7....

Post: What's something nobody tells you about Real Estate Investing, but should?

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Nowadays everybody knows that there is no such thing really as passive income. Everywhere you have to work, to spend your time first to earn money, then to earn big money, then to keep money and after all to reinvest and not to lose. Besides, a lot more work with people. Sometimes it is very hard to keep on doing. It is not passive income when money comes to your banking account and you do nothing just having fun. Who disagree? I am open!!! 

Post: I want to buy rental properties in cape coral and Fort Myers

Roman A ElizarovPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Chicago, IL
  • Posts 19
  • Votes 16

Looking to start buying the houses for LTR and STR in Cape Coral FL