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All Forum Posts by: Ronnie C.

Ronnie C. has started 7 posts and replied 61 times.

Post: Wholesaling Formula for offer price

Ronnie C.Posted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Middle TN and Southern KY
  • Posts 70
  • Votes 26
Quote from @Lily Rodriguez:

I'm sure that this has been posted here already. I just want to share the formula to new wholesalers because I have been getting deals that don't make sense for myself or my investor clients and in order for you to get a good wholesale deal to your Cash Buyers you need to know this formula. It does varies depending on your market.  For this example we will use 70% 

For this formula you will need to know the following:

ARV=After Repair Value ( How much will the house will sell for after making all the repairs needed)

Repair Estimate - (Send me a message and I can send you a list I got from my mentorship class for ball park estimates based on square footage and depending if you need cosmetic repairs, avarage repairs or Extreme repairs)

Your Assigment Fee

ARVx.70 - Repairs - Your Assignment FEE = Max Offer

Example

$200,000 x .70 = $140,000 - $30,000 (repairs) - $10,000 (your profit) = $100,000 (offer)

Your potential profit is $10,000 

I hope this formula helps you make offers that will make sense for all involved in the transaction.

Happy Wholesaling,

Lily Rodriguez - Investor friendly Broker

    18 years in the business, and I understand it perfectly. I just want to thank you for setting it straight! Too many have gotten away from this formula and I can't understand why? 

    If you are trying to scale as a flipper (nothing to do with rentals) then that is the ONLY formula you can use. Hard money lenders and private lending institutions/businesses will loan up to 70% of arv including rehab cost. 

    If you dont have a true "private lender" meaning an individual loaning their cash and or 401 secured by the deed then there is no way you can ever scale! 

    Thank you again for posting this! 

    Post: 70% Rule for flip

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26

    I'm just wondering how do you SCALE without buying on the good old fashioned 70% rule/MAO? 

    I'm talking about true flipping: buy 70%, rehab, resell. Not talking about rentals, just making cash and building on it asap!

    Hard money lenders, and private institution lender/businesses will only loan 70% of arv including the rehab cost, with experience. 

    If you don't have multiple "REAL" private money lender individuals cash or 401's, It's impossible to SCALE and really grow. 

    Am I wrong? 

    Post: Due On Sale Clause About to Become More Common?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @Steve K.:

    Quote from @Pace Jordan Morby:

    We have had the due on sale clause called 4 times this month... but knowing your way around it is crucial. Either A: revert to a lease option with the option price being the mortgage balance when the option is executed... or B: Use an executory contract instead of SubTo. Land Contract. Contract for Deed. Agreement for Sale etc. I talk about this on my youtube channel. 


    Wouldn't the downside of doing any of those things be that if the existing owner gets any liens or judgments, they will still attach to the property? If so that's a big additional risk for the buyer. Also I don't think it's that clear that any of these tactics would actually prevent the bank from enforcing the due on sale. For example according to this, it seems that transferring the title is not required for the DOS to be triggered:

    http://law.justia.com/cfr/title12/12-5.0.1.1.54.0.83.2.html

    From the bank definition of sale or transfer: "For purposes of this definition, a sale or transfer means the conveyance of real property of any right, title or interest therein, whether legal or equitable, whether voluntary or involuntary, by outright sale, deed, installment sale contract, land contract, contract for deed, leasehold interest with a term greater than three years, lease-option contract or any other method of conveyance of real property interests."

    That reads to me very clearly that the granting of any legal or equitable interest in or to a property secured by a mortgage can trigger the DOS, which would include any lease option, land contract, contract for deed etc. as it clearly states in the defintion. I'm not a lawyer or anything, this is just coming from what I've learned on here, there are many valuable old threads about this topic on here like this one:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/83/topics/86029-subject....

    and this one:

    https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/183825-due-o..

    How is it working our for you in practice?

    They/"US Bank" took a house from me that had never been behind or late. By the grace of GOD the tenant/buyers were wanting out, and they had never been late or missed a pyment. Took good care of the property as well. 

     I told them they could stay there at no charge till the bank evicted them and made them sign a hold harmless. Thank GOD I didn't get sued! 

    Oh I tried everything. Even my mentor at that time and this was 15 years ago, tried getting on the phone with them. He offered them several senarios like Pace talks about. They couldn't be reasoned with. They had no common sense what so ever.  He had over 120 houses sub to at that time as well, and was in complete shock!! 

    I told them that it'd be over a year that they will miss this income/payments, plus added cost of attorneys, property management and selling fees. 

    Over a year later it finally sold and they lost their BUTT!!! 

    I will not touch another sub to EVER again. There is nothing like being able to sleep at night knowing I have title to my houses that I buy with cash or loans and no one can take them from me on a whelm. (long as loan is paid) 

    By the way, I had this house 2 years at the time and the loan was low interest for that time. 

    Don't say: it never happens, or it will never happen to me cause I have strategies around it! It can and WILL happen again. 

    I still get sick thinking about it. 


    Post: Trying to meet and network with Miami investors/flippers

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26

    Someone keeps deleting my posts! 
    I’m trying to network with Miami flippers and wholesalers. Sent out 2 messages  to individuals last week and I think BP is blocking my messages as well.

    I’m 18 years in this business flipping and building new construction. Would like to pick up a 2nd home in Miami within the next 2 years. 1st I’d like to do some flips but will need to do it remotely with several visits to Miami. 

    Any experienced flippers, wholesalers, or GC’s please say hello. 
    I’m already working with a Realtor and trying to broaden my horizons/network. 

    Thanks 

    Post: Investor friendly GC's needed in Miami area

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26

    Out of state investor trying to put together a team in Miami. I have a Miami Realtor I'm working with (I'm a Realtor in TN), looking for "Investor Friendly" GC's for rehabs. May need to make contact with some wholesalers as time goes on.  I've flipped and built new construction here locally for 18 years. 

    Can't stay gone to long away from my elderly mother at this time, but would like to have a 2nd house in Miami within the next 2 years.

    If anyone has had experience with a project manager or someone who looked over the GC's shoulder their locally and made verifications of what's being done that you'd recommend I'd like to know how it went and how you paid them.  

    Appreciate good recommendations/reputable people. 

    Thanks

    Post: "How" do you flip remotely?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @Mike Dymski:
    Quote from @Alan F.:
    Quote from @V.G Jason:

    Do not do this unless you're prepared to go there and get an established network, and can go back consistently. I've built a solid team in 3 of the cities I am in, it was a miserable experience at first.


     IDK How Bob does it, sounds great. but just an electrical main service converted from overhead to underground with permits is $45k here!


    Bob is running a real estate business.  It's completely unrelated to your question.  Flipping at scale is nothing like flipping without it.  It's comparing apples to orangutans.

     No, it's not unrealated! I for one would like to know HOW? How do you get that kinda volume? How do you get deals falling into your lap? How do you find the GCs or individual trades in an area where you don't know anyone? There has to be some kinda method or strategy than just hanging out at Home Depot all day?  Just like the Youtubers, vague with no information or detail. Expected more information from Biggerpockets, that's why i'm here! 

    In my business I gotta work my @ss of for everything! Problem is it's dead around here and anything on the market including below median priced houses are just setting going no where! 

    Would love some straight answers and not vague. :)

    Post: "How" do you flip remotely?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @V.G Jason:

    Do not do this unless you're prepared to go there and get an established network, and can go back consistently. I've built a solid team in 3 of the cities I am in, it was a miserable experience at first.


     I don't mind short trips for things of this nature. The way things are now with my mom I have to drive her to doc appointments all the time and be around to help her. So I can't be gone for a month.  Maybe in the spring or summer, but by then I'd like to have a rehab underway. 

    Post: "How" do you flip remotely?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @Mike Dymski:

    Remote flipping for part-time investors is one of the hardest and riskiest strategies discussed on BP.  Heck, it's difficult in one's local market.


     I'm not part time, but the area I live and surrounding is dead and I have my eyes on another area I'd like to live there at some point or have a 2nd home in the meantime :)

    Post: "How" do you flip remotely?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @Bob Stevens:
    Quote from @Ronnie C.:
    Quote from @Bob Stevens:
    Quote from @Ronnie C.:

    As a long time investor and builder of new construction, I'm curious about these so called remote flippers? I see Youtube videos titled "How to flip remotely" but they never tell you "how they are doing it" Some claim they never see the properties other than pictures. 

    Does anyone have experience with this that can lay out a proven strategy that you are using?

    I for one have trust issues, and before I pay a trade I've got to see the work and know that it was done right. Usually I'm around looking over their shoulder while they are doing it. 

    I can't imagine hiring a GC 1,200 miles away to manage the project and to oversee all the trades as that is really going to eat into profit with basically none left. I can't imaging trying to hire the trades and them sending me pictures cause they'd not video or photo something that's an issue that would come back on me in the end. 

    Any help would be appreciated. I've got to get out of my dead area and start finding deals and making things happen. I can't leave my elderly mother for weeks at a time. She really depends on me. 

    Thanks


     How?  Simple, not easy but simple.  I have a team in place in the Cleveland markets all while living on the beach in FL. When presented with an opportunity I have it walked typically within the hour or so, and make the offer as is. If accepted, which most are, I close. All work is handled. I than keep it for a rental or flip it to an OOS or country investor. I have done about 500 all while living out of state. 

    Its ALL about knowledge and your team 

    Good luck 

    Thank you. Could you please enlighten me/us? Is it a secret? 
    I understand team, but how did you start?  Who is held accountable? 

    How did you find your team/put them together? Are they paid by local Florida checks or local Ohio checks mailed to them from Florida? 
    Assuming they are 1099, and no one is W2? 
    These are the things no one doing it will talk about, “how it’s done and structured?

    Are you living in Florida now and formerly a native of that area? If not how did you know what rehab or construction materials and labor cost was running in that area?

    I am interested in a particular market in Florida that I’d like to have a 2nd home there and do business. I have a Realtor I’ve been speaking with and he’s sent me some listings. I’m hoping to find and according to my Realtor, should be able to find on market properties. Happy with him so far. 
    I just can’t get down there for weeks at a time and hire my subs and oversee them directly at the moment. 

    Any enlightenment would be much appreciated?! 
    As I’ve stated it seems to be a big secret that no one wants to lay out the inner workings or logistics of remote flipping.
    Thanks

    😊

     WAY overthinking, how are they paid? Cash app or pay pal, who writes checks LOL.  of course not w2.  How did I build a team, I went there and built. I still remove and add contractors all the time, all remotely. Just this past week I took on two new crews, all went well. Next week I have them start (as long I close)  a 30k reno, while I am in FL.  Videos and photos to show the work.  Never lived in Cleveland. Materials, I have experience doing deals, also just go to HD, and get familiar. After a few you too will know what it will cost.  I know what repairs cost with labor. Its really not that difficult. There is not a book in the world that will provide reality, just like those dumb flipping shows on TV, not reality. 

    Realtors NEVER use them, for the most part they are useless. All my deals are off market. 

    All the best 

    FL WAY overpriced, this bubble is going to bust, 900- 1200 a sq ft is INSANE!!  IMO do not buy 

    Thank you Bob. As for the 900-1200 sqft, I concur, it is insane. I’m looking in the 300 ish a foot range ARV. Below median as far as possible. Yes, shows and YouTube not reality. I’ve been doing this since ‘05. 
    just sold some new construction spec houses earlier in the year. Not building anything else around here for the time being. Blessed by Gods grace to have moved those. I’m staying at or below median for the foreseeable future. 
    I haven’t bought a house off market in at least 17 years. The few I did buy in years past, cost a fortune in mailers, my time, etc. I’ve just had better luck with MLS.  I’m all ears for a proven system that’s not a sales pitch to buy off market and not cost a fortune.  Not spending thousands to get 1 deal a year if I’m lucky. Though I contemplated it earlier this year, I can’t see the juice being worth the squeeze.

    Assuming you have some real wholesalers doing a great job for you in finding deals or some kinda referral system to find deals?

    When you say you are using a crew, do you  find them through word of mouth at HD, people you know in that area  recommending them?
    Is there a GC overseeing a house/job or you are hiring the trades/your crew/team people specializes in plumbing, electrical, drywall etc and these specific people do this specific jobs and pull permits as necessary? 

    Thanks Bob, appreciate your time. 👍😊

    Post: "How" do you flip remotely?

    Ronnie C.Posted
    • Real Estate Investor
    • Middle TN and Southern KY
    • Posts 70
    • Votes 26
    Quote from @Bob Stevens:
    Quote from @Ronnie C.:

    As a long time investor and builder of new construction, I'm curious about these so called remote flippers? I see Youtube videos titled "How to flip remotely" but they never tell you "how they are doing it" Some claim they never see the properties other than pictures. 

    Does anyone have experience with this that can lay out a proven strategy that you are using?

    I for one have trust issues, and before I pay a trade I've got to see the work and know that it was done right. Usually I'm around looking over their shoulder while they are doing it. 

    I can't imagine hiring a GC 1,200 miles away to manage the project and to oversee all the trades as that is really going to eat into profit with basically none left. I can't imaging trying to hire the trades and them sending me pictures cause they'd not video or photo something that's an issue that would come back on me in the end. 

    Any help would be appreciated. I've got to get out of my dead area and start finding deals and making things happen. I can't leave my elderly mother for weeks at a time. She really depends on me. 

    Thanks


     How?  Simple, not easy but simple.  I have a team in place in the Cleveland markets all while living on the beach in FL. When presented with an opportunity I have it walked typically within the hour or so, and make the offer as is. If accepted, which most are, I close. All work is handled. I than keep it for a rental or flip it to an OOS or country investor. I have done about 500 all while living out of state. 

    Its ALL about knowledge and your team 

    Good luck 

    Thank you. Could you please enlighten me/us? Is it a secret? 
    I understand team, but how did you start?  Who is held accountable? 

    How did you find your team/put them together? Are they paid by local Florida checks or local Ohio checks mailed to them from Florida? 
    Assuming they are 1099, and no one is W2? 
    These are the things no one doing it will talk about, “how it’s done and structured?

    Are you living in Florida now and formerly a native of that area? If not how did you know what rehab or construction materials and labor cost was running in that area?

    I am interested in a particular market in Florida that I’d like to have a 2nd home there and do business. I have a Realtor I’ve been speaking with and he’s sent me some listings. I’m hoping to find and according to my Realtor, should be able to find on market properties. Happy with him so far. 
    I just can’t get down there for weeks at a time and hire my subs and oversee them directly at the moment. 

    Any enlightenment would be much appreciated?! 
    As I’ve stated it seems to be a big secret that no one wants to lay out the inner workings or logistics of remote flipping.
    Thanks

    😊