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All Forum Posts by: Ryan Logsdon

Ryan Logsdon has started 0 posts and replied 117 times.

Post: Interest rates spiking--how will this affect your market?

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

On a note from John Thedford 's post, I'm never a fan of news articles that read look how high this person's credit score is, and even he was turned down! There are many more factors (income, D2I, work history, individual marks on one's credit, etc).

I think the present and the near future are great times to invest. Let others panic. There are great opportunities to be found.

Post: Interest rates spiking--how will this affect your market?

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

I was surprised by the increase as well, but 75 basis points doesn't mean the sky's falling. The rates are still great, and I think it's reasonable to assume they'll remain that way for months and months.

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Mark Ferguson your blog is great. I found it a month ago but just signed up for notifications last week. Keep up the posts, they're truly second to none. I was actually inspired by it to the point that every Sunday, I've been logging in to my bank and setting aside $$ to go to my next property. ...actually a bit more than my current passive cashflow.

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Thanks for your explanation, George P.

And good point - with your numbers, the tax advantage is in your favor. With very similar numbers, it's not to mine.

Both of you examples illustrate the point well. Price doesn't matter one bit. It could be Google's $10B debt or just a few thousand from your car. All that matters is ROI vs APR. Put your money towards whichever has the higher value, and you'll come out ahead!

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Gary,

With your numbers, the cashflow you gain by paying off the property is vastly greater than tax incentives you lose! You're on the right course.

As far as extra liability assumed when the house is paid off, I'm stumped as well. George P. could you elaborate?

Ryan

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

I think you've got it down perfect, Gary.

Let me know how you progress with your goal of 15 properties.

Ryan

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Mathematically, there's no difference.

If you have $100k in the bank, $25k in debts, and your ROI is 8%, and your debts cost 8%, you make the same amount at the end of the year in both of the following scenarios:

* pay debt off first, you make $75k*.08 = $6k

* keep the debt and invest what you have, you make $100k*.08 - $25k*.08 = $8k - $2k = $6k.

Empirically, the answer is: if your ROI is higher than your debt's interest rate, don't pay off your debt any faster; if your debt rate is higher, don't invest; if the rates are equal, there's no best solution.

Time doesn't matter; dollar amounts don't matter. All that matters is ROI and debt interest rate.

Post: What prevents the final buyer from just buying the property and going over me?

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Yep, just like Joel Owens said.

I had a potential partner who wouldn't sign a non-disclosure, and there's where our business relationship ended. Easy as that to see their intentions.

Post: Need Financial Math Guru to Help Set Goals

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Hi Gary West

Great goal! Mine is to acquire 5 properties by the end of 2014 and to funnel the cashflow back into the mortgage with the lowest balance until each is paid off.

To address your question and your wife's question, read the 3rd post here by @Ned Carey http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/90638-next-step

As far as the spreadsheet, I'm pretty sure a template doesn't exist. Couldn't find one. I wanted the exact same thing last week so I could map out my goal.

PM me your email, and I'll send you what I built last week. No idea how to attach files to the BP boards.

Here's my disclaimer: there are very few labels, and it was never meant to make sense to anyone but me. :)

If you want to start from scratch, here's all you need (and if anyone can lend further insight, please do)...
1. lots of time!
2. you need 2 worksheets, one with your math, and one with a mortgage amortization schedule. Google it, and the 1st link from office.mircosoft.com should be the template you need.
3. for the Excel spreadsheet, think of time progressing downwards; the further down in the rows you are, the further through the months
4. to map each property, give each one 5 columns {Month #, Mortgage Balance, Principal, Interest, Additional Payment}

* that is the month you're on in your repayment to the bank (1-360)
* balance due to the bank
* that month's principal payment (this is why it's handy to have the amortiation worksheet)
* interest for that month
* and what additional payments you'll kick in from the other properties.

5. when adding a new property to the sheet, just list the following as headers so you can add them into your equations {purchase price, down payment, P&I, cashflow when mortgaged, cashflow when paid-off}.
6. to make this all work, you take an iterative process

* start by charting your 1st and only property, and plot it out so it takes 360 months to pay off
* add in your 2nd property, and add its cashflow to the "additional payments" on you 1st (or have your 1st property's cashflow pushed into your 2nd .. whatever you like)
* keep doing this up to your 15th (or in my spreadsheet's case, my 5th property)

Some insights I've gained:
* the snowball effect works! I found it REALLY interesting reading the blog of another BP member, http://investfourmore.wordpress.com/
* with 5 properties, you can hypothetically pay off 1 of them in about 3 years time (all properties around $110k and 25% down)!
* paying off the mortgage with the lowest balance created the greatest cashflow & brought all properties to a zero-balance fastest (mathematically, this is not always the case, and you could easily find a counter-example if the purchase prices are very far apart)

I really want to learn how you're going to amass 15 properties!

Ryan

Post: What prevents the final buyer from just buying the property and going over me?

Ryan LogsdonPosted
  • SFR Investor
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Posts 134
  • Votes 16

Hi Niranyan Figueroa,

Depending on your state's laws, you should just need simple non-compete and non-disclosure clauses in the contract with your client.

-Ryan