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All Forum Posts by: Terry Drake

Terry Drake has started 20 posts and replied 242 times.

Post: Journey through the next (Lonnie) deal..

Terry DrakePosted
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**UPDATE**

Well I called the park manager and told her the situation with the seller/other buyer and asked her to let me know what came of it. She called me a few days later and told me that the couple were denied so I called the seller and followed up. He dropped the price from $1000 down to 500 so told him I could give him $300 and he can focus on moving instead of selling and have one less thing to deal with. We agreed on $350.

This weekend the handyman will be making the repairs and I will keep you posted on repairs/expenses as it plays out!

Post: Journey through the next (Lonnie) deal..

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Originally posted by Rachel H.:
Awesome, Terry! The pics are great, thanks for sharing your story and journey - that's what it's all about!

p.s. Just curious, is this a 14x70? Is that the target size of most of them? Thanks for sharing!



In this park, standard seems to be 2/1 12x60 1970's. Which I'm not crazy about but the sellers are calling me and their motivated. I just bought another MH yesterday across the street for $500! It's furnished with central air, new roof, carport. How wrong can you be? For that one the husband was gone for the day so I wrote up a contract and signed it, along with a check for $500 made out to him and gave both to the park manager. Then I told him that there was a check waiting for him, all he had to do is sign his name and the title over.

To make things even better, I found out this morning that lot rent has been paid until June!

In case anyone reading is wondering, this one I'll list for $4,500 and sell AS IS with no work done to it.

Post: Filling out a Contract

Terry DrakePosted
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Hi James, which part of the contract do you have questions about?

Are you talking about a contract for personal property or for real estate?

Post: Journey through the next (Lonnie) deal..

Terry DrakePosted
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Yes but nothing close by. This is home is actually a minor rehab. I've got a quote of $250 for labor, have materials priced out, and the carpet guy budgeted in. Lot rent will be prorated to the new buyer. Total out of pocket should be a little less than $1500 but if it did get close to 2k it is still a pretty good return for 3 days worth of work (2 days for handyman, 1 day for carpet guy.

Of course we won't know for sure until it's sold but I know what some of the other homes in the park have sold for needing way more repairs so I feel pretty good about this one.

Post: Journey through the next (Lonnie) deal..

Terry DrakePosted
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I, like many of you am a visual person. So here are some pics to keep you interested :wink:





Post: Journey through the next (Lonnie) deal..

Terry DrakePosted
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Before I did my first deal, I spent time on BP searching for people like me going through their first dealings in this business. I found many who started sharing their adventure but when it started to get good, the thread died. The ones that did finish I found to be extremely helpful. They show how easy this business really is to get out there and get started!

My first post on the subject started out looking for answers and ended being a journal of my personal findings along with tons of valuable information from many great people on Bigger Pockets (Thanks to all of you!). That thread can be found here for those interested in reading along: http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/30/topics/45339-first-lonnie-deal-on-the-right-track-

I have received a huge amount of support from people who are testing the waters with their toe but have yet to jump in for fear of the un-known. One of the most common things I see concerning a 'Lonnie deal' is "I can't get homes that cheap!". Well to that I say non-sense, poopy pants! You CAN. You just have to find sellers who NEED to sell. There is a big difference between a seller who wants to sell, and one who needs to sell.

With that being said, here we go!

This deal I just bought a few days ago started with a simple phone call I received one night about 8pm. It was from a gentleman who got my number from the neighbor of my first deal (you won't believe how fast word of mouth travels in these small communities!).

He said that he heard I buy mobile homes. I explained that I buy mobile homes if the numbers work and it makes sense to buy them. I always ask them to tell me about the home and let them talk. While they're talking you are learning about the home, why they need to sell, and building report all at the same time. It turns out that he needs to sell because he is moving out of state in less than two weeks to live closer to the children and grandchildren. On top of that, his wife has had a job offer that she needs to take advantage off (sounds like they NEED to sell doesn't it?).

After I kept him talking a little bit, asking basic questions about year, size, bed/bath, the AC, roof, ect. I asked him about the condition/repairs needed to the home. Just keep them talking! He told me the floors were in pretty bad shape. When I asked how much he wants for the home he told me $1000. Now that's within my price range so I told him I would be there in the beginning of the week to take a look.

Let me take a step back for a moment and mention something. This is a people business! If someone doesn't like or trust you , you probably won't get the deal, or at least not a very good one. It's very important to build report!

When I got there we talked for about 15 or 20 minutes about everyone's favorite subject.. you guessed it. Themselves! We talked about his business, the horribly hot South Florida weather, and the miserable people down here. Then we talked about how great North Carolina is how how he can't wait to get out of here. While we were talking I casually did my inspection. When I found a problem, I didn't have to say anything because he was right there.

During the inspection, I found water damage (not bad) on the wall around the window AC. Plywood over the holes in the floor (they were big enough your foot would go right through to the grass). The place was going to need to be re-carpeted.

After I was done I explained my concerns about the home. My main concern is that the place needed to be re-floored/re-carpeted and there is a very limited market for a 2/1 without central air, and aluminum wiring which means my holding cost + repair cost + sales price puts me above retail value and leaves me with very little if any profit on the deal and that's why I typically stay away from 2 bedrooms unless they have something to offer like central AC or 2 bathrooms.

Then he asked me if I would take it for $400 if he paid the next months lot rent. Can you believe it? I didn't make an offer or have to 'low ball' him. He did it himself!

Now.. this is where MY lesson was learned (that's right, I'm still learning as I go and have lots to go). I told him I would definitely consider it at that price but I wanted to put some numbers together first. That night I went home, put my numbers together and I was pumped! Then I started to get a bad feeling about not closing the deal. Sure enough, first thing the next morning he called me to tell me he had SOLD IT pending park approval for the full price $1,000 CASH.

Talk about a kick in the ribs and ruining my Saturday!!

Well.. I know this post is long enough to make your eyes bleed so I will end it for now with a 'To be continued...'

Post: Do you make your offer right away?

Terry DrakePosted
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Originally posted by Marilyn A.:
Thank you all for the help and advice. I do appreciate it.
I am still working hard to buy my 1st. But it seems a lot more are being advertised for sale the past couple of weeks, so that's good.
I've actually seen several ads for free homes and looked at some yesterday. Problem is, they have to be moved. So, I decided not to get one of those, since the cost will be comparable after moving and set up to one already set up.
Have had 2 sellers contact me back. One lowered his price a bunch (but it's still too much for me). I had made an offer with terms, but he wasn't interested. However, he is motivated, and he may still change his mind.
Then had another seller contact me (after 3 weeks) wanting to accept my offer with terms. Now I have to decide if I want it after all.
My plan is to buy SOMETHING this week.


The important thing is your out there making offers and talking to the sellers! Now you see that many of these sellers are more motivated then you think and just because they don't accept your offer at the time, you could very well end up with it later. That's why your offers need to be what work for YOU and not the seller.

I like your attitude about going out there and buying something this week but be careful about buying a bad deal because you bought it in haste. Your first deal won't be your best but you don't want a bad deal/experience to scare you away from this business!

Post: Describe Your Best MH Deal!

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I would like to hear some more details about these double wides! What year, how many bedrooms, and most importantly, what type of work did it need? Did you buy turn key and flip it or did they need work and you sold them as is? Did you have them fixed?

The manager in a park that I have been working in told me she has a double wide for me to buy. She said I can have it for 2k. I looked at it today real quick as I had somewhere else I had to be but couldn't help myself. The roof and everything is in good shape, just a little aluminum siding work, and flooring. The whole place needs carpet or vinyl and the sub flooring needs replaced in places.

I was thinking..

A.) Sell it before I buy it, as is and advertise as a handy man special for maybe 7k (feel free to speak your mind on that price, I'm always open to ideas/criticism)

or

B.) Buy it for 2k (I'm pretty sure I can get free lot rent while I'm fixing it) put the money into it to fix it up, and retail it. (some where around 15k?)

Sorry for the hijack Reid :oops:

Post: Do you make your offer right away?

Terry DrakePosted
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Very well said, Mike.

Post: Do you make your offer right away?

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Originally posted by Marilyn A.:
You DID buy the one for $400, didn't you? That's amazing. I haven't found any like that yet, but I am not going to get discouraged. How did you find this seller?
I will keep placing ads. I like how it makes you feel like you're in the driver's seat when they call YOU.
Negotiating is hard for me. I'm kind of shy, but I think I'll get better if I keep trying.
By the way, what was the $400 home like? What number are you on now? Is it 4? Have you found that you're getting better and better at negotiating and more confident in general as you do more deals? Or maybe you started out confident?

No.. I told him that I wanted to put some numbers together for labor and material before I made any offers on it. Honestly, it doesn't look like something I want to mess with right now. (needs a lot of floor work, re-carpet half of teh home, then kitchen need re-vinyled after we patch those holes, and we have to frame out a wall because he turned his 2/1 in to a 1/1!). Although if it was a 3 bedroom I would have bought it in a heart beat! I am looking for homes that need little to no work to sell.

I did tell him that even if I don't buy it, I had another idea how to get rid of it for him. Since he's moving at the end of April and it will be vacant anyways, I told him I could put a lock box on the door if he put it under contract with me and I would market the property/show it to buyers. This way he can move and not worry about it Once sold I would send him his $400 and we would sign the title over. He seemed to really like that idea so that's what I'm going to push for.

I've never been a shy person but first time I was a little nervous on the inside. After you do your first deal you will know where your numbers need to be, then the nervousness is gone because you know your max offer.

I'm assuming you've read Lonnie's books?