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All Forum Posts by: Tim Ryan

Tim Ryan has started 20 posts and replied 604 times.

Post: Should I buy in Los Angeles before it is too late?

Tim RyanPosted
  • Investor / Mentor / Contractor
  • Arcadia, CA Buying Out of State
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Quote from @Kevin L.:
Quote from @Tim Ryan:

Hey Kevin,

I say continue to buy rentals and of course needs to be out of state because of where you live. You can build up good cash flow and equity. Los Angeles is not the only place to gain appreciation - although it is really good - but you pay for it...

Anyway, I have stories about people who focused on rentals before buying their primary home and they've done great.


 Hi Tim, 

I see. Yea, it would be more financially sound to stack up on income producing assets over a liability. Where are the people you know investing out of state?

Mid-west is popping. South is still good but you need to be careful as many of those areas are already on a downturn. I look for newer growth areas.

Post: Should I buy in Los Angeles before it is too late?

Tim RyanPosted
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Hey Kevin,

I say continue to buy rentals and of course needs to be out of state because of where you live. You can build up good cash flow and equity. Los Angeles is not the only place to gain appreciation - although it is really good - but you pay for it...

Anyway, I have stories about people who focused on rentals before buying their primary home and they've done great.

Post: partnering with your GC starting out?

Tim RyanPosted
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This is a great idea and you should partner with your friend GC.  You asked about %.  Since he will construct close to cost and taking a risk also, I would structure at 50/50. Will also motivate him to want to keep working with you.

Post: Let's talk strategy

Tim RyanPosted
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Quote from @Jennifer Fernéz:
Quote from @Tim Ryan:

This can be done.  One way to better your odds is to find a partner and do this together.  It will be easier to get $10k monthly cash flow together than $5k on your own. 

$5k is not overwhelming, but if you never really get started then it's a moot point.

Power in numbers.  Go for it !


 What is the difference in numbers?   It seems more like a headache to partner with someone but I’m interested in hearing your take.

Here's my point:  It would appears making $5k on your own is equivalent to making $5k in a partnership. So what's the difference?

I'm making a point that many people who are new to real estate investing (which I think includes you) have a very hard time ever getting started or taking that leap on their own. 

Then I see newbies who team up, motivate each other and work together as a team. It being a headache is only if you can't work with people for properly set up a company with someone.

This is what is great about investment partnerships. You only need to partner on a deal by deal basis. Do one deal together. If not working out, don't do more.

If it works do a lot.  I have numerous partners. One of my first partnerships, we owned 330 units together. The partnership has been amazing. Perfect? Of course not. But very lucrative for sure. Neither of us would have done this without the other.

Something to think about. Maybe you'll have to go out first on your own before you'll really understand what I'm saying here.

Post: Boring Buy and Hold Investors

Tim RyanPosted
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Yes sir. I see the rentals as wealth building and flipping/development as a job (with ordinary tax structure). Love the buy and holds.  It's a "Get Rich Slow Scheme"!

Post: “Live In” Flip Advice!!

Tim RyanPosted
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Buy an existing house to live in and add an ADU in the back. This is the best strategy for LA. I am currently working to find ideal properties. DM me and maybe I can assist you. I'm a licensed RE agent, contractor, and investor. I have a unique plan for getting ADU's done quickly and economically. If you hold for 2 years then sell, I feel very strongly that you will do well. Hey, if you get married you'll be able to shield an extra $250k in capital gains!!

Post: Let's talk strategy

Tim RyanPosted
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This can be done.  One way to better your odds is to find a partner and do this together.  It will be easier to get $10k monthly cash flow together than $5k on your own. 

$5k is not overwhelming, but if you never really get started then it's a moot point.

Power in numbers.  Go for it !

Post: First family home or real estate investment?

Tim RyanPosted
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Quote from @William Hochstedler:
Quote from @Tim Ryan:

What did Kiyosaki say? Your home is a liability and an investment is an asset.

Interesting.  This is a mindset argument, not a financial one.  It falls apart completely if you think of yourself as as tenant and pay yourself rent (that you would otherwise be paying someone else).

https://www.richdad.com/your-house-is-not-an-asset

I prefer the quote from The Richest Man in Babylon, "Make of thy dwelling a profitable investment."  In other words, take advantage of all of the benefits granted to home owners including lending, zoning, and taxes.  But treat it like an investment.  House hacking is just planning to repeat this process.

Also, learning home ownership on your own house is much more forgiving.  Houses are complex systems where lots of stuff can go wrong and there are lots of opportunities for improvement.  Experiencing these first hand in your own home provides greater flexibility while you figure this whole racket out.

Thirty years ago, I was fascinated by real estate opportunities in an emerging market (Brooklyn) and spent lots of time looking at cool warehouse space in places that are now 30-50 X the price.  But I never acted because I didn't have the money, knowledge or confidence to pull the trigger.  It was only after I got to Utah and purchased my primary residence (and got a real estate license) that it all started to click.  I had to have the visceral experience of committing to a 30 year obligation was 5 times my annual salary and then watch it work out relatively risk free (because I have to live somewhere) to feel comfortable making multiple six-figure commitments.  So I advocate home ownership as the first step.

The most important thing is action.  The best time to buy real estate (and plant trees) is 20 years ago.  The second best time is today.
Two schools of thought.  The point I want to make is this. Society for decades has said, "of course buy your primary as a first step". I'm saying that's not for everyone and I'm thinking more and more people should think long and hard about the possibility of owning rentals first. Either way that first purchase is difficult.

I bought a home for my family years before I ever thought about investing. But here's a story I love to tell.

I bought a 42-Unit Apartment Complex in Chattanooga a number of years ago.  I set out to hire onsite managers.  A younger couple replied and I hired them and they moved into Unit 18.  They were good managers. About a year in they asked for my advice about them buying a house. I recommended they buy investments first. I truly didn't mind if they had bought a home as I would have let them manage remotely. But I was telling what I would do in their situation.

Long story short, they ended up buying two duplexes. Once they got pregnant with twins they decided to move on from the managing and they bought their primary home.

I visited them and saw their house.  At this visit they thanked me profusely saying all of their friends were very stressed for years trying to save for a house, get financing, and making those mortgage payments.  They told me they had little stress at this point, and by the time they were ready to buy the bankers used the income from the rentals, the process was easier, and they got a much better house than they ever thought.

A success in reverse order (but why reverse? who says?)

How about this:  Let's make "Rental Property Ownership" the New American Dream!

Post: First family home or real estate investment?

Tim RyanPosted
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This is a great question in my opinion because I believe in many cases, people should buy an investment property before their primary home. 

If you ask your banker, your older parents or grandparents, realtor, financial manager etc. they will all say "of course buy your primary". That's because that is all they know and somehow there is a status symbol attached to it.

What did Kiyosaki say? Your home is a liability and an investment is an asset.

Lot's to learn on this subject.  First step is to not worry about what others think. Do what makes sense for you.  Building wealth should be a priorty. 

Post: Find a Mentor!!!!!!

Tim RyanPosted
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Good post. I wholeheartedly agree that strong mentors are integral to a person's growth. Becasue I have a lot of RE investment experience I now mentor. But that in no way stops me from seeking and using strong mentors.