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Post: REO and this big bailout- wtf is going on?

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Originally posted by Joshua Dorkin:
Right. We have gone insane.
Pragmatically though, I think buying now might make sense for me as opposed to continuing to rent. I mean, if it all melts down and I loose my job or can't pay my mortgage, it looks like I can pass the buck on to someone else in this new, no accountability financial system.
Post: The Birk Economic Recovery Plan

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Originally posted by Mark Hawthorne:
I'm against the $85,000,000,000.00 bailout of AIG.
Instead, I'm in favor of giving $85,000,000,000 to America in a We
Deserve It Dividend.
To make the math simple, let's assume there are 200,000,000 bonafide
U.S. Citizens 18+.
Our population is about 301,000,000 +/- counting every man, woman and
child.
So 200,000,000 might be a fair stab at adults 18 and up..
So divide 200 million adults 18+ into $85 billon that equals $425,000.00.
My plan is to give $425,000 to every person 18+ as a We Deserve It
Dividend.
Of course, it would NOT be tax free. So let's assume a tax rate of 30%.
Every individual 18+ has to pay $127,500.00 in taxes.
That sends $25,500,000,000 right back to Uncle Sam.
But it means that every adult 18+ has $297,500.00 in their pocket.
A husband and wife has $595,000.00.
What would you do with $297,500.00 to $595,000.00 in your family?
Pay off your mortgage - housing crisis solved.
Repay college loans - what a great boost to new grads
Put away money for college - it'll be there
Save in a bank - create money to loan to entrepreneurs.
Buy a new car - create jobs
Invest in the market - capital drives growth
Pay for your parent's medical insurance - health care improves
Enable Deadbeat Dads to come clean - or else
Remember this is for every adult U S Citizen 18+ including the folks
who lost their jobs at Lehman Brothers and every other company
that is cutting back. And of course, for those serving in our Armed
Forces.
If we're going to re-distribute wealth let's really do it...instead of
trickling out a puny $1000.00 ( "vote buy" ) economic incentive that
is being proposed by one of our candidates for President.
If we're going to do an $85 billion bailout, let's bail out every adult
U S Citizen 18+!
As for AIG - liquidate it.
Sell off its parts.
Let American General go back to being American General.
Sell off the real estate.
Let the private sector bargain hunters cut it up and clean it up.
Here's my rationale. We deserve it and AIG doesn't.
Sure it's a crazy idea that can "never work."
But can you imagine the Coast-To-Coast Block Party!
How do you spell Economic Boom?
I trust my fellow adult Americans to know how to use the $85 Billion
We Deserve It Dividend more than I do the geniuses at AIG or in
Washington DC .
And remember, The Birk plan only really costs $59.5 Billion because
$25.5 Billion is returned instantly in taxes to Uncle Sam.
Ahhh...I feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Kindest personal regards,
Birk
T. J. Birkenmeier, A Creative Guy & Citizen of the Republic
PS: Feel free to pass this along to your pals as it's either good for a
laugh or a tear or a very sobering thought on how to best use $85 Billion!!
P.P.S. Even if the number is 250 million adults, the share is $340,000
gross each!!!
($238,000 net after that estimated 30% federal tax rate)
Your state and local governments will want "their share"
too, but think of all the pre-financed public works projects that could get done.
More jobs!
Repave streets and upgrade utilities--that needs labor, and
equipment and materials.
This is way better than "trickle-down" economics--it would
be "tidal wave" economics!
Make sure the $25 billion that goes right back to Uncle Sam
gets used for debt reduction.
PPPS--I heard on the radio that the total of all recent and potential
near-term bailouts may reach $500 billion. Put another way,
half-a-trillion dollars. Or 500,000 million!
Um... Dude!
Your math is off. 85 Billion dollars divided by 200 million people, is $425 per person.
Not $425,000!
Giving $425,000 to each person 18+ would cost 85 TRILLION dollars, which is 8 times the current national deficit.
Post: REO and this big bailout- wtf is going on?

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I agree that this is absolutely crazy. It looks like with every passing day that it is getting worse, in my opinion, as the congress tries to set prices in the market for these terrible securities.
I feel like we are so close to getting to the bottom of this and being able to figure it out.
I mean here I am, about to buy a condo that probably has one of these "toxic" mortgages associated with it, where there was no income verification, no money down, etc. And I am pricing this security/condo at $230K and it WILL sell at this price and I will be able to pay it back, as we are actually verifying my income etc. so my security will actually be worth something.
But with this bailout... I wonder what will happen. So the treasury buys this loan and then, if I am hearing the plan correctly, will wait for the market to rebound and then sell the asset so that banks don't have to deal with "firesale" prices aka the actual prices of these assets. So this condo will sit empty until it is worth $405K again? That could take a decade. Maybe two.
Now, you combine that with dems talking about changing foreclosure law to keep people in their overpriced homes as a necessary provision to get anything passed and wow. Giving people incentives to default on their mortgages can't be good. And giving people who can't pay back loans bigger loans is what got us into this mess. "affordable housing" is turning into free rent, paid for by uncle sam.
Post: Government's Financial Rescue Plan, Will It Energize The Weak Real Estate Market?

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Originally posted by Shari Posey:
Additionally, almost everyone who purchaced a home between 2006-2007 could buy the same home across the street for half the price. These people aren't necessarily having a hard time making payments but they are seriously considering leaving the keys on the kitchen counter. I guess there's no way to stop this from happening until prices stop dropping.
And as far as this bailout opening the credit markets-- ANYONE with a FICO of 620, 3.5% down and documented income can buy a house with FHA. Most of the people on this site are non-owner occupied investors, but owner-occupied buyers have no problem getting financing.
I am one of those first time FHA buyers, and this bailout is really swinging prices. It seemed like banks were finally lowering prices enough to actually get offers, but then this big bailout appears and they think they can get almost full market value from the fed.
I saw a condo go from a listing price of $230K (which was still a little high in my opinion) back up to $405K. I was going to offer $180K or so to see what the bank said. Now with it at $405K, its a freaking joke.
It isn't clear to me what would happen if this asset was purchased in this bailout. Would the fed then sell it? Does anyone understand? What is uncle sam going to do with all these houses it purchases?
Post: REO and this big bailout- wtf is going on?

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I am looking at REOs in Los Angeles and found one that I liked. It was listed on the MLS at $230K. My agent contacted the selling agent to take a look at it, and the selling agent informed my agent that the bank changed their offer and wanted $405K instead.
What is going on here? Are some of these banks waiting to see if they are going to get bailed out?
A $180K price swing seems crazy to me. It is like they know the true market value of these loans but just don't want to admit it.
Post: Hey Whats up from Los Angeles!

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Originally posted by Michael Shadow:
-Michael
I don't really know the difference. Not Bulk (I am looking to buy one house/condo/duplex) as I am going FHA with the first time homebuyer program.
I am seeing some condos come on the market at great prices and that is mainly what I am interested in. It looks like mortgage prices are almost getting down to rent prices in certain parts of LA.
How does buying REOs work? Are they all listed on the MLS? How do you get the best deals?
Thanks!
Post: Hey Whats up from Los Angeles!

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I am new here and I need some posts built up on my account.
How is everyone?
I just started looking at bank REOs and am really excited right now about the potential.