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All Forum Posts by: Tychua G.

Tychua G. has started 3 posts and replied 33 times.

Post: Best way to Scale based on income?

Tychua G.Posted
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How would you take an income of $100k/year to scale for maximum doors on year 1?

This may sound easy but most people default to programs like Conventional or FHA. What is an alternative to these programs for maximum impact?

If you started fresh and had $100k to spend, what would you do and why?
1) Use it to purchase primary home, keep for 5+ years and then do a cashout refi
or
2) Go straight to buying rentals that may or may not cashflow now

Choice 2 has the issue of further downside risk in addition to negative cashflow (tenant issues etc) in a correcting market.

I would like your takes to this scenario, you can propose a third/creative option if you'd like.

Hi Kenny,

What is the best way to minimize DTI impact while maximizing unit acquisition utilizing a Conventional loan?

How many months of seasoning is required before rental income can be used to offset mortgage debt on the property when qualifying for a separate mortgage?

Looking forward to your response!

@Sharon TseungThanks for the share, great info!

Originally posted by @Greg Rulfs:

@Tychua G. I'm in the middle of reading Long-Distance Real Estate Investing written by BP's own David Greene. It's full of lots of fantastic, practical advice for getting started out of state. Best of luck to you!

 Thanks Greg, I will also give it a read.  From what I can tell so far, the bottom line for OOS investing is still to network if long-term sole ownership is desired.  I'm curious, does Greene cover methods of attracting the right people/talent to his circle?   

It seems that syndications are a recurring theme here. Is there a reason or advantage to start out with an 80+ unit?  Most books I have read so far have made mention of dealing with apt. complexes generally after years of investing into single families /duplexes etc. as it entails having systems and people whom you have worked with.  With that said, without this core circle at the moment would it still benefit to pursue this path?

Originally posted by @Kim Lisa Taylor:

@Tychua G. I suggest you learn to syndicate bigger deals (80 units +) so you can hire professional property managers, who will know local contractors and other vendors. Find a real estate attorney licensed in the state where the property is located and they will connect you with Title and escrow companies, when needed (seller often chooses these services). Your Syndication Attorney is separate from your real estate attorney and can be located anywhere as they operate under federal law, but you want one who focuses on this practice area to properly structure your company and help you comply with securities laws. There are lots of good books on Amazon, podcasts, and real estate trainers who can help you get started.

Originally posted by @Michael Carbonare:

When I started investing out of state, I opted to use assignments.  With a property hundreds or even thousands of miles away, buy and hold and all the associated management issues was beyond my comfort zone. Still, I saw the value in virtual investing and with some research and talking to another investor who was already successful doing this, I followed his path.  Lease option assignments allowed me to invest in properties without risk and with minimal cash out-of-pocket.  Years later, with more cash and experience I can utilize other strategies, but for getting started that was my entry point to investing at a distance.

This is something I will have to look into but very happy to hear that it is working out for you!  Do you have any recommendations on books regarding lease option assignments?  

Originally posted by @Raman Saka:

Hi

I can totally relate to the situation you are facing. For me, I am in WA (king county) . The real estate market has been on fire and its impossible to have +ve cash flow given the prices and rents. So last year I researched and locked in on DFW area for future investments. Here are some do’s and don’t’s from my experience.

Do’s

  • Get referrals for Property Agents , brokers and real estate firms you want to work with. In all appreciating markets there will always be people who want to make quick money instead of putting in the hard work needed in this business.
  • Interview lots of Property Management companies, even after due diligence be ready to change PM’s when you are not getting the kind of attention and information.
  • If you have found these 2 then you are on solid ground, most PM will take care of handling the contractors. Good ones don’t need too much supervision, but in my experience you will have to show PM’s that they need to earn your trust. Early on I found double charges, numbers not adding up all the time, but once you build the repo your PM should adapt to providing the level of details you want in their reports.

Don’t

  • I did a blind leap of faith based on redfin, some county data research. Insist on better ground report and ensure neighborhoods, schools , crime and drugs data. In my search it will be tempting to see similar property coming in 20K cheaper, don’t fall for that. There always are reasons for discounts and sometimes the reasons will be out of your control. For example if you found about the crime in area after a property is under contract.
  • Be careful and don’t have all the dependency on the agent or broker you select- I mean don’t always use the property inspector and lender who are friends with the agent. Get to know these people from other networks or acquaintances. You want to ensure that across your team your interests are looked after. Sometimes if you see that you have most skin in the game BUT are always getting paid last then challenge that status quo and change it.

OOS seems scary and it is because you have lesser control and there are more variables. But with the right team, you get cushioned from day-to-day hassles of being a landlord as well. There surely will time when that 6-8 % management fees seems like the best money you spent.

 Raman, this is the exact advice I am seeking and thanks for being so concise about the details.  Can you also expand on how you approached the right people initially or did you spend a weekend in the target market with meetings with specific people or did you do it locally and then branch out? I intend to take action but would like to  have a firm plan based on working methods.