All Forum Posts by: Venel Rene
Venel Rene has started 5 posts and replied 14 times.
Post: Two Bedroom Condo

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- Florida
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Great job, thanks for sharing. Tax liens just made the list
Post: Property Management/Manager Recommendations ?

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- Florida
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Quote from @Drew Sygit:
Even if someone gives you a referral, what meets their expectations, may not meet yours.
In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.
It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!
Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator.
So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.
EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!
This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.
The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!
We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.
We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:
We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.
EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!
P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊
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P.S.S. You may want to check out our website, www.LogicalPM.com, because unlike our competitors who MERELY state what they can do for you, we provide an outline of how we execute each of the services we provide! One of the best compliments we've received was from a client, who while searching for a PMC, used our service outlines to interview competitors and found there was no comparison.
Thank you, this was helpful
Post: Property Management/Manager Recommendations ?

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- Florida
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Quote from @Lucie Tighe:
Hi Venel, are you looking for long or short term PM? Would love to help, lets talk.
Long term
Post: Looking for CASH Buyers in Florida!

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- Florida
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Post: Wholesalers: List your property free to our 30,000 cash buyers!

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- Florida
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Post: Property Management/Manager Recommendations ?

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- Florida
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Anyone have recommendations for property management company in Tampa, FL area?
Need someone to take over and manage my rental property ( 4/2 Single Family ).
Post: Tampa Bay REI Meetup

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- Florida
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I missed this event but I'm looking forward to the next one
Post: How to guild for picking a Cleaner or cleaning service

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- Florida
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I have heard and read many posts about how reliable cleaners are essential for STR business. What are typical rates and responsibilities that separates good cleaners/services from poor ones.
If you have any recommendations for cleaning services from the Orlando/Kissimmee area, please feel free to share.
Post: Would you close with these numbers?

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- Florida
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@Joshua Strickland We are considering self managing at least for the first 2 years to learn the ins & outs of managing.
@Matthew Crivelli I agree! I'm also hesitant because this deal is at our ceiling for budget.
Post: Would you close with these numbers?

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- Florida
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@Andrew Simms Long term rental number aren't as great, still making a profit if it's based off the medium rent. I also included typical high rent numbers
Medium Rent
Monthly cash flow
$323 /mo
Income
$2,665 /mo
Expenses
$2,341 /mo
CoC ROI
6.94%
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High Rent
Monthly cash flow
$683 /mo
Income
$3,065 /mo
Expenses
$2,381 /mo
CoC ROI
14.66%