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All Forum Posts by: Laurie Williamson

Laurie Williamson has started 7 posts and replied 54 times.

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

@Ned J., thank you for the perspective and thoughtful comments. "That's life" sums it up! Hopefully the check I sent will make up for some of the frustration and make it easier to get this handled. After I posted this yesterday, the contractor found what he thought was a leak under the house, and so I sent a plumber out. Plumber said there are leaks in the roof, so now I am sending a roofer out. This is turning into a real Halloween mystery. What is causing the leak and how much will it cost? There are even spiders! LOL. I was surprised about the cabinets needing to be removed, and tile going on top of that too, but my contractor said that it could prevent future damage to the subfloor in the event of another leak, because the tile would protect the subfloor. Apparently the worst of the damage was directly under the cabinets. This is also a pier and beam home, built in the 1950s, so that may have something to do with it. There is not a concrete slab under the floor.

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

OK, so I offered the $500 and/or option to walk away from lease. Hopefully this will resolve it. Thanks all who commented. Next, I'm going to look at forum posts on selling, ha ha! Kidding not kidding.

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

@ Steven Wilson, that sounds like a great deal! Cheap rent, and not a problem if you spill your beer on concrete or a subfloor.

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

Thanks, JD. 

1. Yes, I am locked into the carpet and tiling, and committed to completing that work. 

2. The carpet was replaced. It's just the tile that is in limbo. Currently, she is able to use the kitchen, but the tile has been pulled up, exposing the subfloor. You can walk on it; it just looks bad. This weekend, though, they are going to remove the cabinets and counters and replace the subfloor, and they won't be able to put them back until the tile installer (a different company) comes back out. So that is where the real loss of use comes in, I guess. But she had to empty out her cabinets in preparation for this. 

3. Hindsight is 20/20. Ha ha. I didn't realize the flooring would turn into a major repair! Was really just trying to do something nice for this tenant, who has been in the property four years.

 4. Thanks for this advice. All repair scheduling was approved by the tenant, but I like your advice to accept compensation or let her out of the lease or not. That sounds good.

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

Thank you for the advice! 

Post: Compensating Tenant for Inconvenience of Repair of Kitchen

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

This started out with me trying to do something nice for my tenant! LOL... I was going to replace the carpet in 3 bedrooms, and replace the tile in the kitchen, right after she signed a new lease. However, my installer discovered a problem with the subfloor in the kitchen. It was wet and damaged in a couple of places. I called a plumber out the same day to check for a leak, they tightened some loose bolts, and the tile installer said he would come back in a few days to finish the job. When he came back out, he thought he could do the job, but decided the subfloor was too damaged. He advised me to hire a contractor to replace the subfloor. I was able to find someone who could come out that week, but he said that he could not just repair the patch of subfloor. He said he also needed to remove the cabinets, which had water damage from a previous plumbing issue, repair/replaced damaged wood in the cabinets, and then put in a completely new subfloor. Then the tile guy could come back and finish the job, and he and his team can re-install the cabinets and counters. They are also going to replace some drywall in the wall that had the leak. That was very disappointing news, but OK, fine. I put down half the amount, got it scheduled for the following weekend and said let's do it.

Well, the Friday before the work was scheduled to begin, my tenant had a potential COVID-19 exposure, and we had to postpone all the work. Her tests came back negative, and we rescheduled for this week. Then my contractor called me this week, and he had potential COVID-19 exposure. The repairs got pushed out by one day in order to allow him to get his test results and confirm he is negative. Tenant OK'd this, but then called the next day to ask if we could reschedule for next week because she is having guests and the repairs would be an inconvenience. I explained that I could ask, but before I do, wanted to double check to see if it would be OK with her if this pushed things out by another week or two. I was concerned that it might be difficult to reschedule because we have multiple contractors coming, and the steps need to be done in order. I also didn't want to ask this of my contractor, knowing how frustrating it would be to cancel on everyone.

She said it was OK to keep the repairs as scheduled, but she is (somewhat understandably) annoyed at the inconvenience. I get it. It is frustrating to have your kitchen torn up, and it is frustrating to have things rescheduled. However, the COVID stuff is no one's fault—we are testing and rescheduling for everyone's safety. And the repairs are mandatory. I can't put a new tile floor on top of a rotten subfloor. She is angry that she has not had full use of her kitchen for 2 weeks, and may be delayed a week or so more, and she seems annoyed that it takes a few days sometimes to get someone out to the property.

I can't really control what date my contractors can come out (I don't know what other jobs they have on the schedule, and am coordinating multiple different people, and things need to be done in order)—but I am wondering if it might be a good idea to offer her some compensation for the loss of use of her kitchen. I was actually planning on doing this anyway, but was waiting until ALL the work was done, because there could be a delay at any step in the process. But maybe it's better to offer it now, to help ease the frustration. So far, it has been 2 weeks, and the kitchen is still usable, but the subfloor is exposed. And during next week, until the tile is done, she won't have her cabinets and counters. If all goes well, the work could be done by the end of next week, but I would anticipate up to 4 weeks total if there are plumbing issues. I am kind of trained to expect the worst at this point!!

The rent is $1420. I am thinking of offering $500 to compensate for up to four weeks with the kitchen in various states of repair. This is just a rough estimate—It feels like a kitchen is worth about a third of the house. My goal is to be fair, but my concern is creating an expectation of getting compensated for every repair... and of course, I am concerned about costs.

The past couple of years with this property have been so expensive and frustrating at times, that I am tempted to sell. It used to do great, but I had about $9000 in repairs last year, and this current debacle will total at least $6000, and I am only one month into a new one-year lease.

I guess my questions are: (1) Would you recommend compensating this tenant? (2) Does $500 seem fair, or a different amount?

Thanks! I appreciate any advice. You guys are always such a help.


Post: Carpet or laminate? It's complicated.

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

You guys are all amazing and I appreciate your input so much. Bigger Pockets is such a great resource! I'll try to pay it forward and check the forums and see if I can help anyone else. Hope you all have a wonderful day, and thanks again for the insightful advice!

Post: Carpet or laminate? It's complicated.

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

@Angelo Forzano, no I haven't installed flooring myself... it's probably time to learn! When this house is empty, I will probably roll up my sleeves and do as much of the make-ready myself as I can. For now, just trying to get it installed quickly, and by someone else, since she's still living in it. Thanks for the tips on how to do this less expensively.

Post: Carpet or laminate? It's complicated.

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18

@JoeSplitrock, thank you, that is really helpful. Good idea—I'm going to require a signed lease to put in the carpet. I'm still thinking about what to do about the dog, if in fact it's still there. I didn't want pets because they can cause damage, but it's not like I dislike dogs... was just annoyed that the lease provision was ignored. I'm going to address it with the new lease.

Post: Carpet or laminate? It's complicated.

Laurie WilliamsonPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Plano, TX
  • Posts 54
  • Votes 18
Originally posted by @Colleen F.:

If you are going to do carpet , which it sounds like you are, tell her it is there for the duration. It is quick and easy one day job. Also let her know she is going to have to move her stuff if you install now.  Wood parquet can be difficult or impossible to refinish so don't get too hopeful on that. It depends on what it is. You can get an idea when they rip out the old carpet.  As for the lease, you know if they are Month to month you don't have to wait a year to raise the rent, you can raise it anytime so I wouldn't worry on that one. 

Thank you for this information! I didn't know that about wood parquet... good to know.