Who knows why maybe it's a cultural thing or she has other stresses going on and she is scapegoating a little.

Common culture today seems to have the fantasy that zero money down, owner will carry, borrowed everything will produce a stable income producing asset for the buyer.

Brian you seem to be very interested in treating people very fairly and really helping them and that's what I am all aboutMany wholesalers who have been taught " to step on people to make money "contact me because they want to help Sellers fix problems and develop a reputation for being fair and honestI had one of my students that was a wholesaler for five years and really hated it because he had to keep going back to the seller to push the price down because the cash buyer wanted to cheaper priceI look at the best way to get started in real estate is to get your license and solve problems for sellers and get testimonials on your website that you were honest and fair helping them solve their problemMy dad was a poor Irish second-generation in Boston and had no money when he was a kid and he became an orthopedic surgeonHe told me "do no harm" when I was a boyI think to me "the wholesaling fever pitch seminar racket" is "stepping on people to make money"An alternative to the "wholesaling only" model is to be able to "help sellers sell on terms verses for cash"Ron LeGrand in Tampa has said to his students get licensed because of the brokering laws in FLI really feel that people should just do the right thing in the beginning, learn every legal way to help people with real estate, and you'll develop a reputation for being a great fair business personif your licensed you can act as a principal and use creative techniques like subject to, lease-option assignment, wraparound mortgages, master lease options, master leases, whatever tool works for the situation

We joined a group before we found the mentor we're with now- paid a large sum of money, and didn't get what we were promised so make sure that you really know the character and culture of the mentor/group you're joining.  

There are historic parts of these areas with authentic culture and people and then there are pockets that you want to avoid.   

Originally posted by @Matthew Irish-Jones:@Joe Splitrock I own and run a professional management company and we use the cash for keys option. 

. Restaurants and bars have a hard time surviving, and i think you’re going to Have to wait until all of these nerds’ kids grow up and start rebelling to see a real culture start develop there.

Many fail to understand screening, managing, understanding the culture and treating people with dignity.  

The Govt and culture of those days was much different and not so frightening to have a 'temporary' Govt overreach.

@Matthew Irish-Jones I agree, at that point you could go into a bigger software/platform Buildium etc.