We use that opportunity to talk about important issues we often encounter like not paying water bills or letting tall weeds grow on the side of the house.

I don't see myself doing the cold calling part- would like to find trusted lists and then go from there I believe Sorry, there is no such thing as trusted lists.

Some old buildings have old floor drains with p-traps and if there is no water in it the sewer gas could come in and make it's way to the vents.

And as corporate layoffs in October were at their highest for the month in 22 years, we have some rough waters ahead in terms of consumer discretionary spending.

A couple quick questions: 1) do you have your PM's manage your monthly utility payments (water, gas, electric etc)? 

I put a new well in back lot to feed water to all new buildings but since I have recently sold that property along with two other duplexes and retained rights to use water lines I put in for a monthly fee.  

Virgin steel to stand up to Salt water environments.

However, let’s go with my premise that when you first purchase it will be significant cash negative when including all expenses/revenue impacts (piti, cap ex/maintenance, PM (always include pm in underwriting even if self managing because your time has value and circumstances change), vacancy, bookkeeping, portion of asset protection (umbrella, LLC, etc, and miscellaneous (this includes things like unexpected utilities for example from a slab leak, not fair to charge the tenant (I recently had a $2k unexpected water fee for a water leak), legal fees for various consultations, eviction fee, or the recently mandated stair and balcony inspections, etc.  

Also added mailboxes for box units and new water heaters for both units (plus a new electric meter for the other unit and internet hookup).Apt A (two beroom, one 3/4 bath) rents for $2200 and is occupied.Apt B (one bedroom, one full bath) rents for $1450 and is occupied.The problem I'm facing is with the refinance.

Unless youo have a reason to enjoy crispy cold weather.