When I used to sell way back in the day when i wasn't yet an agent, despite the 'Principals Only' warning boldly plastered all over my FSBO listings, agents nevertheless lined up at my doors with the usual pitch even when notified in writing to cease communication, still wanting ERTS, throwing fits and all, sometimes even disrupting my open houses under the guise of bringing 'buyers ready to sign' that were 'on their way'  yet never showed.Granted over those years, there were 1 or 2 out of dozens upon dozens agents who were up for the challenge to compete with my own offers, but most others were just too greedy or whatever and just would reiterate the holdover clause like parrots, pretending to not understand holdover clause is why exclusive agency without right to sell remains a viable compromise and formidable challenge to truly measure up to.have you as investors (and/or as agents) ever had similar gripes with stubborn/aggressive agents who yet weren't up for the challenge competing with the owner(s) themselves to find the best offer that successfully closes?

That should answer the question of whether it is a stubborn seller, or if you've found a diamond in the rough with a seller who just hasn't had a pitch (offer) to look at quite yet. 

Or are wholesalers pretty stubborn about their price for the most part?

In our case, it was a very tough negotiation with a stubborn seller, and the listing agent offered her contribution to bring the deal together.

She is stubborn in her ways.

Often here is what is happening: we are finding a fair share of people who paid $60,000, $76,000, $86,000 to around $120,000 at auction from 2008 onward (through the mortgage meltdown) for 3-4 bedroom 1500 square foot + homes on 1 to 10 acres who are clearly stubbornly looking to 'cash in' at 2 to 3 times what they paid by keeping the homes on the market beyond 6 months!

Smells can be stubborn.

I fear that they will continue to be stubborn and not budge.

If you are looking for a "Magical clause" in Marco's contractthat will make stubborn sellers throw up there hands andsurrender and sign, you are going to be as disappointed asyou were when you learned about Santa, the Tooth Fairy,and girls being faithful.Trust me, I have both courses; you can find out everythingthat Marco knows and learn it from the guy that taught him,Ron LeGrand.  

She is so stubborn that she wont move out even if we tell her it for her best.