I believe in the concept that a reward is more of an incentive to do something than a consequence is for not doing something, but I also believe fees build MASSIVE businesses.

I really liked you Charles, and I still wish you massive amounts of success.

Take $xx dollars to the stock market and you're entirely on your own - win loose draw and no one to blame, whereas RE has many agencies involved, all trying to protect themselves and parochially manage you to.My 95k down payment in '97 has yielded massive returns by just sitting on the investment and depositing rents. 

Don't know a firm number on number of jobs created but the place is massive. 

I'm more of a Warren Buffet type of buy and holder and don't do a lot of day trading, puts, shorts, longs, etc. 

The basic BRRR strategy is very intriguing at the moment although I don't have 100% of my time available to oversee massive reno projects involving complete tear down, but would rather stick to basic cosmetic upgrades (new kitchen, flooring paint basic landscape etc) We currently own our personal home with a fair amount of available equity, approx. 200k  which I will likely access via HELOC here as soon as I complete my due diligence in locating lenders here locally...starting from scratch but have called on 2 smaller banks so far that have made a couple of interesting offers both at about 80% LTV for reference...first was a 4.5 - 4.75 fixed rate 5 year interest only but seemed to have a lot of extra fees initially totaling about 1k while the other was 2.99 for 12 months fixed then prime plus .5 for additional 4 years.

I've tried but, the parties involved are all Mormon and work from a web of in-penetratable exposing this massive Racketeering/fraud.This is means of acquiring massive amounts of real estate leaving their family on the streets with no means to fight them.

Granted, I was fortunate to luck out with the massive boom we had recently, but even so... 

@Chris StPeter if you like free gifts you should sign up for all the time share tours in Vegas ,show tickets,buffets and if you hold our hawaiian cruises Remember 1 purchase one all your gains go away  

There will be some ups and downs depending on when large apartment buildings open but it is holding steady even with the massive growth.