What is the best way to form a partnership? Form an LLC together?

What is the best way to form a partnership? Form an LLC together?

Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes

I have a friend living in NYS. I live in NC. We are talking about buying rental property together in NYS. What is the best way to buy property together? Form an LLC?

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Accountant · La Mesa, CA · Member since 2017 · 477 posts · 476 votes
8y

Hi Karen,

If you are buying property with someone else, by default you are in a general partnership.  You do not want to be in a general partnership.  You would be totally liable for your friend's actions or liabilities (if your friend gets sued and the other party can tie in the investment at all, you could be sued even though you had nothing to do with it).

An LLC is probably the best best for what you are looking to do. You will want to discuss with a CPA or an attorney what state to establish the LLC in (the state you invest in, NY, or NC).

You can write the operating agreement yourself to save money, but you may end up regretting it. You need a strong operating agreement that covers all contingencies. I am sure that you and your friend can work well together, but one of the advantages of having a strong operating agreement is that it can resolve conflicts before they occur. A good operating agreement will discuss what happens if you both need to contribute more money to the business (what if in 3 years you need a new roof for your investment property, but the LLC does not have enough money in it to cover it); what happens if only one of your is able to contribute money to the LLC for an unexpected situation; what happens if you have a serious disagreement about the direction of your investment (what if one of you wants to sell the rental but the other wants keep it); what happens if one of your expectedly passes and the other is now partnered with the spouse or kids of your friend; etc.

I know you would rather save the money (who wouldn't), but it is a deductible business expense and may save you a lot of headaches later.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Durham, NC · Member since 2016 · 7k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    8y
    Karen Warren you form an llc and then you get your attorney to draft an operating agreement. The cost of this will likely be several grand
  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    Thank you, Caleb. But, can't we write out our own operating agreement? Is an attorney really necessary?

  • Real Estate Agent · Houma, LA · Member since 2016 · 240 posts · 115 votes
    8y

    You can write out your  own operating agreement, but I would still suggest having an attorney look it over. 

    The thing to do is to decide on your operating agreement terms with your  partner. Include how you will operate the business, who will do what, who is responsible for what, and who is accountable for what. Once you have that worked out, then decide how you will break up the business should one of you want to exit. Include every scenario you can think of. 

    Once you have that in place, then contact an attorney. It "should not" cost thousands of dollars for an attorney to look over you operating agreement. You should then be able to file your LLC on your own with the state.

    Disclaimer: I am not an attorney and don't play one on the internet.

  • Accountant · La Mesa, CA · Member since 2017 · 477 posts · 476 votes
    8y

    Hi Karen,

    If you are buying property with someone else, by default you are in a general partnership.  You do not want to be in a general partnership.  You would be totally liable for your friend's actions or liabilities (if your friend gets sued and the other party can tie in the investment at all, you could be sued even though you had nothing to do with it).

    An LLC is probably the best best for what you are looking to do. You will want to discuss with a CPA or an attorney what state to establish the LLC in (the state you invest in, NY, or NC).

    You can write the operating agreement yourself to save money, but you may end up regretting it. You need a strong operating agreement that covers all contingencies. I am sure that you and your friend can work well together, but one of the advantages of having a strong operating agreement is that it can resolve conflicts before they occur. A good operating agreement will discuss what happens if you both need to contribute more money to the business (what if in 3 years you need a new roof for your investment property, but the LLC does not have enough money in it to cover it); what happens if only one of your is able to contribute money to the LLC for an unexpected situation; what happens if you have a serious disagreement about the direction of your investment (what if one of you wants to sell the rental but the other wants keep it); what happens if one of your expectedly passes and the other is now partnered with the spouse or kids of your friend; etc.

    I know you would rather save the money (who wouldn't), but it is a deductible business expense and may save you a lot of headaches later.

  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    Thank you, Caleb, Clint, and Brian. You have been a lot of help. I appreciate your input.

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