Over-Leveraged / Fear of the First Deal

Over-Leveraged / Fear of the First Deal

Winter Garden, FL · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 10 votes
Like most new investors starting out, I have a few good things going for me (steady income, great credit, education resources, support from family), and a few barriers to overcome (no cash, no assets, limited network). I'm determined to be successful and take action, despite starting with only part of the puzzle. Here's what I'm looking at... because I don't have the cash to fund a deal, I want to go with traditional lending for the mortgage and open a LOC to borrow the down payment and rehab costs. I'm working on my RE Agent License, which will allow the commission to help offset the closing costs. Then after the rehab refinance to pay off the LOC and hold as a rental. Assuming I find a good enough deal, I won't be over-leveraged because I have forced equity through the renovations, putting my total loan in (or below) the 80% LTV range. Are there problems or dangers with this plan I'm not thinking/aware of? Am I not putting enough weight to the risks? I'm also worried if the market goes down, then I've lost my "forced equity" and could potentially be underwater and/or stuck with an operating loss if rents go down as well.
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Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
9y

If you max out the LOC will you qualify for the new loan?

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  • Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    If you max out the LOC will you qualify for the new loan?

  • Winter Garden, FL · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    I was told if I go through a small bank and do both with the same lender they may allow it? Is that unheard of?

  • Investor · United States · Member since 2015 · 415 posts · 487 votes
    9y

    That's definitely something you'll want to get assurance from the bank on before starting.

    It sounds like your goal is to end up refinancing with enough to completely pay off the LOC, thus acquiring a rental with around 80% LTV but having no money put into it, is that correct?

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    9y

    I would NOT purchase unless I had strong reserves. If something goes wrong and you need a new A/C or roof how will you pay for it. Save some cash first.

  • Winter Garden, FL · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    @Jim D. that's the idea. It obviously depends on finding a good enough deal where the numbers work

    @John Thedford I have personal finance reserves for emergencies, but not sure if its wise to count on that. I am planning on factoring in R&M and Capex into the rental figures, and ideally if I'm doing the rehab myself I should have some control over things not breaking on day 1 of switching it to "rental" mode. Is that fair? Or are you suggesting reserves on top of that

  • Real Estate Broker · Naples, FL · Member since 2013 · 9k+ posts · 6k+ votes
    9y

    If the A/C dies can you replace it? Water heater? Roof? You should be prepared for the unexpected. I just replaced one roof because my insurance company demanded I do so or be dropped. 

  • Walnut Creek, CA · Member since 2015 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    go price out a sewer lateral lol .... :(

  • Winter Garden, FL · Member since 2016 · 28 posts · 10 votes
    9y

    Yikes. 

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