All
Members
Companies
Blog
Forums
Podcast
Webinars
    User Log in  /  Sign up
  • Forums
    Newest Posts Trending Discussions Followed Forums Real Estate News & Current Events General Landlording & Rental Properties Buying & Selling Real Estate Deal Analysis See All
  • Education

    Read

    BiggerPockets Blog BPInsights: Expert Analysis Guides Glossary Reviews Member Blogs

    Watch

    Webinars Video Library Financial Independence Blueprint Intro to Real Estate: Rentals

    Listen

    BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast BiggerPockets Money Podcast BiggerPockets Business Podcast Real Estate Rookie Podcast Daily Podcast (Audio Blog)

    Topics

    Business Operations Finance Finding Deals Property Management Property Types Strategy
  • Network

    Recommended Vendors

    Real Estate Agents Mortgage Lenders Hard Money Lenders Insurance Contractors Investment Companies Build Your Team

    Search

    Members Events Jobs
  • Tools

    Calculators

    Rental Property Fix and Flip BRRRR Rehab Estimator
    Wholesaling Mortgage Payment 70% Rule Airbnb

    Services

    BPInsights: Property Insights Tenant Screening Property Management Lease Agreement Packages

    New Feature

    BPInsights (beta)

    Quickly analyze a property address or ZIP Code to compare your rent in your neighborhood.

    Analyze a property
  • Find Deals
    Real Estate Listings Find Foreclosures External Link Ads, Jobs, and Other
  • Bookstore

    Real Estate Books

    Profit Like The Pros Bidding to Buy See all books

    Featured Book

    BiggerPockets Wealth Magazine book cover
    BiggerPockets Wealth Magazine

    Written by financial journalists and data scientists, get 60+ pages of newsworthy content, expert-driven advice, and data-backed research written in a clear way to help you navigate your tough investment decisions in an ever-changing financial climate! Subscribe today and get the Oct/Nov issue delivered to your door!

    Get the Magazine
  • Pricing
Log In Sign up
User
Quick search links
Podcast Hard Money Lenders Books Washington
ForumsArrowStarting OutArrowStarting My Portfolio
  • Newest Posts
    • Newest Posts
    • Unanswered Discussions
  • Trending
    • Top Discussions
    • Trending Discussions
  • Browse Forums
Search Nova
Create post

Starting My Portfolio

7 Replies

  • Share on Facebook
  • Share on Twitter
  • Share on LinkedIn
Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 2

Celeste Fikiri
from Berkeley, California

posted almost 3 years ago

Hello Biggerpockets community,

I am a delighted to have discovered Biggerpockets and I am hooked on the podcast and all of the resources. I need some real time advice on how to get started in real estate. My goal is to generate a full time income investing in multi-unit rentals and flipping over the long term.....I am not looking to get rich quick. This is a business I plan on passing down to my daughter. I have inherited a nice amount of money, which has allowed me to go down to teaching part-time (which I plan on doing forever, because I love teaching), but I do not want to continue to use my inheritance to live on. 

Here is where I am looking for some advice. I am not sure which path to take to get started. 

My goal is to have a full time income from my properties, with my teaching income as fun money.

Path 1: I have enough money to buy a duplex or triplex, (in an up and coming community in the SF Bay area) with cash and still have a cushion in the bank. The income from the multi-family would be enough to save, maintain, and modestly supplement my income. From this place I would slowly build my real estate business by flipping and buying and holding through the various means of financing available.   Or should I take path #2?

Path 2: Put my money in a few different local banks, use my savings to modestly supplement my income, apply for a loan for my first property which could be a multifamily unit that I sit on and build from there using the BRRRR method.

As you can see my dilemma is.......use my money to start my first property or use someone else money. I think that there are advantages to both plans, but I am just not sure which one would be the most beneficial. 

I would love any advice you have to give!

Thanks,

Celeste   

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 18
  • Votes 27

Aaron Moore
Rental Property Investor from Toronto, Ontario

replied almost 3 years ago

The BRRRR strategy is great to stretch your money further. Can you find the deals that will enable you to pull out a big chunk of money after renos? The challenge is usually finding the deals.

Also get clarity from a bank on how much they'll lend to you on rentals. I'm not clear if you're debating to buy a rental with all your own cash or getting a mortgage from a bank... but YES try to get a low rate from a bank and use the bank's money.

For many people it's a good idea to start with ONE property. There's a learning curve. But the sooner your start the the more experienced you'll be. Don't wait for the perfect deal. Buy a good one and get started.

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 1.5K
  • Votes 1.5K

Amit M.
Rental Property Investor from San Francisco, CA

replied almost 3 years ago

#2 is the most practical. You'll most likely need money for renovations and probably to buy out tenants, if you're looking for a deal in the Bay Area for a BRRR strategy. So use bank financing wherever you can.

Also maybe buy a 2-4 where you can live in a unit (if you’re renting now), so you can learn first hand how to be an effective landlord. 

Look for up and coming locations (Oakland, Hayward, San Leandro come to mind) so you can benefit from gentrification growth. 

You’ll need to look hard though, as we’re at peak market, and good deals are few and far between. I’d do a lot of research on areas/building types that meet your needs, and proceed cautiously- first rule of investing is- don’t loose money!  Good luck

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 2

Celeste Fikiri
from Berkeley, California

replied almost 3 years ago

Thank you Amit for taking the time to respond to my question! The more research I do the more I am realizing #2 is the way to go.

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 236
  • Votes 154

Sherwin Gonzales
Rental Property Investor from San Francisco, CA

replied almost 3 years ago

Awesome that you are hooked on the BP bug! If this is your first property, definitely try to get a 2-4 unit and take advantage of putting only 3.5% down! As Amit says, live in one and rent out the rest.  You can renovate the units as they move out and re rent for higher! Use the cash flow to help you pay the mortgage and/or supplement your income. Good luck to you!

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 2

Celeste Fikiri
from Berkeley, California

replied almost 3 years ago

I am definitely thinking that my first property is going to be a multi unit that I live in.  It is interesting to see multi units going for the same price as single family homes, but they are not selling as fast as single family homes.  Many of the units I am seeing are occupied......I am wondering since many cities have favorable laws in place for renters, are buyers staying away from multi units in cities like Berkeley? It is not an easy process to evict in Berkeley.    

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 76
  • Votes 28

Andrew Luong
Rental Property Investor from San Francisco, CA

replied almost 3 years ago

Hey @Celeste Fikiri - I also think there could be a happy medium as well.  In Bay Area, it could get quite tough to cash flow with a low downpayment (something that you have to your advantage that most don't is the cash).  I think you could take a hybrid approach and do a higher downpayment than most (eg - 50%?), use some bank leverage, and save some cash for future deals!

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
user profile avatar
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 2

Celeste Fikiri
from Berkeley, California

replied almost 3 years ago

Hello Andrew Luong, 

Thank you for the advice! That is exactly what I have been thinking i should do. The more I crunch the numbers, a higher down payment is the only way I can generate a cash flow.

Rotate Log in or sign up to reply
  • 1
Resources Read, see, and learn more!
Link Real Estate Investment Calculators
Link BiggerPockets Blog
Link Path to Purchase
Link Mortgage Loans
Link Find a Contractor
Link Real Estate Agents
Link Hard Money Lenders
Link Real Estate Listings

Top Contributors

Brad L.
Brad L.
Manitowoc, WI
5.64
Score
Greg M.
Greg M.
Los Angeles, CA
5.32
Score
Joe Villeneuve
Joe Villeneuve
Plymouth, MI
4.79
Score
Michael Plante
Michael Plante
Deland, FL
4.36
Score
Stephen Brown
Stephen Brown
Toledo, OH
3.76
Score

Starting Out Trending Discussions

  • So you want to become a real estate investor?
    103 Replies
  • Investors who started in late 30’s with multiple children
    40 Replies
  • Favorite Way of Finding Off Market Deals (for free)
    8 Replies
  • Would You Buy Your First Property Out of State?
    10 Replies
  • Starting out and have a few questions!
    8 Replies
Log in Sign up

Log in

Forgot password?

If you signed up for BiggerPockets via Facebook, you can log in with just one click!

Log in with Facebook

Or
btn_google_dark_normal_ios Created with Sketch. Continue with Google

Let's get started

We just need a few details to get you set up and ready to go!

Use your real name

Use at least 8 characters. Using a phrase of random words (like: paper Dog team blue) is secure and easy to remember.

By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.

Or
btn_google_dark_normal_ios Created with Sketch. Continue with Google

Why create an account?

Receive a free digital download of The Ultimate Beginner's Guide to Real Estate Investing.

Connect with 1,000,000+ real estate investors!

Find local real estate meetups and events in your area.

Start analyzing real estate properties, we do the math for you.

It's free!

Explore

  • Membership
  • Community
  • Education
  • Marketplace
  • Tools
  • FilePlace
  • REI Resources
  • Perks
  • Glossary
  • Reviews
  • iOS App
  • Android App

Company

  • About Us
  • Press
  • Advertising
  • Careers
  • Stats
  • Contact Us

Important

  • Editorial Guidelines
  • Terms of Use
  • Rules
  • Privacy
  • FAQ

Social

  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • YouTube
  • Instagram
© 2004-2021 BiggerPockets, LLC. All Rights Reserved.