Benefits to part-time Real-estate investor getting licensed

Benefits to part-time Real-estate investor getting licensed

Portland , OR · Member since 2018 · 5 posts · 1 vote

I have been doing some part time real-estate investing (In Oregon), made some good money on a few fix and flips over the years. I would like to keep the momentum going and get more active. I think the next logical step is to get my real estate license. I do have a full time job I’m not planning on leaving anytime soon. Nor am I planning on being a conventional real-estate agent. The intent is to only broker my own deals and gain access to more resources in the industry. That being said, if I’m a licensed agent, but not working for any principal broker. What latitude does that really give me?

Access to MLS?

Ability to set up viewings of listed properties?

Would I need to carry my own insurance?

Will these costs outweigh the benefits?

Thank you.

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Real Estate Consultant · USA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 751 votes
8y

Personally I would never become a real estate agent. It would distract me from more core competency of being a real estate investor. Plus, how could I ever expect to be as good as someone with 10 or more years experience, especially if you say you would only be doing is part time and for your own deals.  MY recommendation is to find a good agent that will work with you and give you the information whenever you need it. Chances are you'll reap the benefits by them moving the property faster than you could. Again, make sure it's a good realtor with lots of transactions. Someone that knows how to market and sell properties.    

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  • Real Estate Agent/Investor · Peoria, AZ · Member since 2016 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    It could be very advantageous and save you thousands on commissions and having access to the MLS is very helpful as well.

    Having access to properties without having to wait for an agent is priceless. Time is money and being able to scout your own deals at your own leisure is worth it.

    Not sure how insurance goes for Oregon, but I would assume you would need some sort of E&O insurance.

  • Real Estate Consultant · USA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 751 votes
    8y

    Personally I would never become a real estate agent. It would distract me from more core competency of being a real estate investor. Plus, how could I ever expect to be as good as someone with 10 or more years experience, especially if you say you would only be doing is part time and for your own deals.  MY recommendation is to find a good agent that will work with you and give you the information whenever you need it. Chances are you'll reap the benefits by them moving the property faster than you could. Again, make sure it's a good realtor with lots of transactions. Someone that knows how to market and sell properties.    

  • Investor · Newberg, OR · Member since 2012 · 161 posts · 82 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Scott Ferguson:

    I have been doing some part time real-estate investing (In Oregon), made some good money on a few fix and flips over the years. I would like to keep the momentum going and get more active. I think the next logical step is to get my real estate license. I do have a full time job I’m not planning on leaving anytime soon. Nor am I planning on being a conventional real-estate agent. The intent is to only broker my own deals and gain access to more resources in the industry. That being said, if I’m a licensed agent, but not working for any principal broker. What latitude does that really give me?

    Access to MLS?

    Ability to set up viewings of listed properties?

    Would I need to carry my own insurance?

    Will these costs outweigh the benefits?

    Thank you.

    Hello Scott! In Oregon you have to hang your license under a principal broker for three years. After three years you can become a principal broker yourself. There are many investor friendly brokerages. My husband and I work under Premiere Property Group and they are great. Our E&O insurance is covered by a transaction fee we pay which is reasonable. If you are an independent principal broker I believe you would be required to carry E&O insurance (just a smart business move) but you could call the Oregon Real Estate Agency and ask them. Its a highly regulated industry - I would suggest you consider just finding a brokerage that will work with you - there are many.

    In order to be a member of RMLS you have to be a Realtor which requires joining the national board of Realtors through the local board - in Portland its The Portland Metropolitan Association of Realtors (PMAR).  PMAR dues are $680 per year.  RMLS fees vary on whether or not you are an independent principal broker or associated with a brokerage - as do licensing fees.  

    I think if you are acting as your own listing broker for your flips and do a few a year the cost would definitely make up for the fees you will have to pay versus what you would save in commissions - at least if you are in the Portland Metro area.  But you should do your own research as to whether or not you can find a brokerage that will keep your transaction fees low.  Additionally there are continuing education requirements. So it would probably come down to how much of an inconvenience it is and whether or not its worth your time to jump through the hoops!  None of these entities care if you are doing it for your own benefit - you will be held to the standard of a full-time real estate agent when it comes to fulfilling their requirements.  But its super great to have access to comps and schedule your own showings!

    Good Luck!  

  • Lender · Vancouver, WA · Member since 2015 · 482 posts · 316 votes
    8y
    @Scott Ferguson It all depends on what you want. There are a lot of naysayers out there. Do what you want and then if its not for you let your license lapse imo. I am the same type of Realtor you want to be it sounds like. My thought is you have to consider what your time is worth, for me it is 100% worth it. I have my license in OR & WA, a W-2 position, and I help others as I am available. When representing others, I am straight up about my W-2 position to my clients and all tell me they appreciate it. I use it as a selling tool even as "I practice what I preach and since I have other income, I don't HAVE to get paid right now, so I can help people get the best deal, even if that is to walk away." For myself, when I see a property I am interested, I go see it. I don't have to wait for anyone else. Getting my license also opened doors to mentors and a side of the business I wouldn't have otherwise seen. No different than any other industry. Anyone can play plumber, but being a plumber and doing it profitably is usually different. Be aware, each brokerage is different. Some are better at building a team brand, some are better at training the residential Realtor, and some allow you to be your own business and have a more of a DIY attitude. And there are different business models of each. I am by nature a DIYer so that model works with me. As a Realtor, I pay almost nothing in fees to my brokerage compared to everyone else I have talked with, but my brokerage is not a big brand, I don't have a built in-assistant/transaction coordinator, there is no training program except the school of Hard Knocks, and most of my marketing I have created myself. I get insight from my mentor/principal, other agents, Kevin Ward, and Tom Ferry. But the best method is what I already knew from being in sales: be fair, treat people how I want to be treated, and appreciate them. Steve
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