Do I need an LLC to get a hard money loan? Do I need an EIN?

Do I need an LLC to get a hard money loan? Do I need an EIN?

Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes

I've talked with several hard money lenders and they are all telling me they won't loan to individuals, only LLC's.

So, I just got my LLC. Do I need an EIN number for my business now? How about a business bank account and credit card. Is this just a way of separating my personal assets from my business entity assets?

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Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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@Karen Warren HMLs don't follow the Frank Dodd conventional disclosure and regulatory requirements, and therefore are prohibited from lending on an individual's primary residence. The entity requirement is one more layer of protection for them to show that they are, in fact, only lending on business purpose loans. 

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  • Investor · Columbus, OH · Member since 2017 · 86 posts · 74 votes
    8y
    @Karen Warren Apply for an EIN number through the IRS it's free and takes 5 minutes. A business bank account is essential to make it look like you and your LLC are separate entities. A business credit card is nice because you can earn cash rewards, but it's not essential to start.
  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    @Ian Tvardovskaya Thanks for your reply. That is what I was thinking but, being a newbie, it's nice to have the confirmation.

  • Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Karen Warren HMLs don't follow the Frank Dodd conventional disclosure and regulatory requirements, and therefore are prohibited from lending on an individual's primary residence. The entity requirement is one more layer of protection for them to show that they are, in fact, only lending on business purpose loans. 

  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    @Jason Hirko Thank you, Jason. That makes sense.

  • Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    LOL I said Frank Dodd... I mean Dodd-Frank

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    @Karen Warren there are HML that will lend to individuals.
  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    @Jason D. Really? Which ones are they?

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    @Karen Warren I know lendinghome and first equity funding do, and I believe patch of land will, but they'll set up an LLC for you. BP has a hard money lender database, search through that and I'm sure you'll fine more.
  • Lender · San Antonio, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Karen Warren:

    @Jason D. Really? Which ones are they?

     Yes, several. I could name one, but I would get in trouble with BP. The entity requirement is prevalent, but not universal for the reason I mentioned above. 

  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    @Jason D. Thanks.

  • Investor / Lender · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 730 votes
    8y

    While it's true that HMLs can lend to both individuals and entities, you might be investing in a state that restricts HMLs to only lend to an entity.  I know that LendingHome does consider NC to be an "Entity Only" state.

    @Jason D. LendingHome also classifies FL as an "Entity Only" state as well, although it might only be in Dade County.

  • Winston Salem, NC · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 2 votes
    8y

    @Nghi Le Interesting.

  • New to Real Estate · Teaneck, NJ · Member since 2018 · 167 posts · 60 votes
    8y

    @Karen Warren Many Hard Money lenders will loan to an LLC and not an individual but they will underwrite the members of the LLC.

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