Evaluating a property: possible asbestos ceiling tile
11 Replies
Cheryl Hewitt
posted about 1 year ago
Newbie here. Today I looked at a SFH in a good location in Madison, WI. The price is 58% below the average for homes in this neighborhood. It needs a lot of work - total rehab. It's a rare find in this city and would likely be a great BRRRR property.
Before I pull in a contractor, I'd like to get input from this community. I believe it's highly likely that the ceiling tiles have asbestos. Does this look like asbestos ceiling tile to you? If so, how expensive is it to have it removed? It's a 1600 sqft home. Is this just part and parcel of rehabbing?
Thanks in advance,
Cheryl
Justin Woodworth
from Madison WI
replied about 1 year ago
Yikes! Let me know what the damage is. I live in Madison and it can be rough to find a good deal and I have personally never had to deal with that type of ceiling tile.
Jeff Cichocki
Lender from Green Bay, WI
replied about 1 year ago
@Cheryl Hewitt , how old is the tile? Age will help you determine if it is or not. The other thing that you should consider is whether or not you want to really know. You only have to disclose what you know. You do not have to disclose things that you suspect or think. And, the only way to know for sure is to test it. Once you test it, you may be opening a can of worms you don't want to open.
Cheryl Hewitt
replied about 1 year ago
@Justin Woodworth , I will.
@Jeff Cichocki , okay! The house was built in 1923, but this appears to have been added in a later update and I don't know when that would have been.
I didn't realize that ignorance would cover this. That's good to know and really frees up the options. Thanks!
Jeff Cichocki
Lender from Green Bay, WI
replied about 1 year ago
@Cheryl Hewitt , ignorance does not cover everything, but it will definitely help here. Just tear it out and put in drywall. It'll be a much better finish anyway.
Good luck! I hope you are successful with this project.
Nathan G.
(Moderator) -
Real Estate Broker from Cody, WY
replied about 1 year ago
CLICK HERE for a guide on identifying asbestos tile. It may help but isn't a guarantee.
The danger with asbestos is when the dust is airborne and ingested or inhaled. I also think it has to be disposed of properly. I think it would be worth having someone test it. If it's not asbestos, sail on. If it is, you'll have to determine if you want to just cover it or pay for someone to remove it professionally.
Cheryl Hewitt
replied about 1 year ago
Good morning. The realtor sent me the real estate condition report, which did verify that the house has asbestos and lead paint, and lead pipes, and a myriad of other issues. The report included an estimate for repairs, excluding plumbing, HVAC, and electrical and some other key components like updating the interior including bathrooms and kitchen, the amount came to $139,549.35. I'm walking away from this one. It's just too much, especially for someone just starting out in REI.
Andy Crooks
Real Estate Broker from Verona, WI
replied about 1 year ago
Call revive restoration. Write an offer based on an asbestos test (and other contingency you think you need). If there is known asbestos that pops up in test the seller would be required to notify other potential buyers. It could allow you to get the property under contract with exclusive window to negotiate.
Good luck and PM if you would like to discuss further.
Andy
Andy Crooks
Real Estate Broker from Verona, WI
replied about 1 year ago
Just saw your follow up post. Yikes! Hard to stomach those costs. Could be a coup for someone who knows how to deal with that stuff to get at a value and still have a delta after repairs. 99% of buyers aren’t touching it.
Larry Schnapf
replied about 1 year ago
You would need to engage a licensed asbestos abatement contractor to abate asbestos. Only have to remove damaged ACM. Improper ACM is what usually gets owners in trouble.
Dylan M.
Rental Property Investor from Glens Falls, NY
replied about 1 year ago
You can only assume something is asbestos until it is tested.
Mike Karger
Investor from Lodi, CA
replied about 1 year ago
Just a heads up I have tested hundreds of those ceiling tiles and rarely do they come up positive. Like 1 time in 10 years did I get a positive result. The mastic (looks like a peanut butter hockey puck) that holds the ceiling tile in place is more often positive for asbestos. Sounds like this project might be a head ache, though!