I'm curious how much a typical board up costs, just to put plywood over everything and secure it, vs. using something like DAWGS with their operable steel doors. I assume DAWGS is an install fee and then a monthly fee?
Anyone have some rough estimates they could share here?
@Brian H. There is pros and cons to both. Material has gone up so plywood is more these days and on the other hand a service like Dawgs has a minimum time period you sign up for. 6939 S Laflin is a pretty rough block and they are not worried about boards getting in the way if they want something and on the other hand throwing up Dawgs on a block like this announces I have something of value here for you to come and steal. What we found to work up until flooring goes in is getting a real guard dog (around $100 per week) to be there nights and weekends. Then once you get far enough along in your project you have a house sitter which there are services for out there at around the same price. Storm doors and all exterior doors is a big help too.
Real story....On the next block there on the 6900 block of Justine we had a guy go right through the side wall of a porch to gain access when we had it boarded up so if there is a will there is a way.
Thanks @John Warren .
@Mark Ainley , thanks. How does that work, is it a service you hire? Do you then have to feed and lock up a dog every day? And maybe a bit expensive to to do for the duration of a project... (this is my first one, I'm anticipating 4-6 months) though I had been considering having someone stay in it. Didn't realize there was a service for that also.
I would still like to find out how much DAWGS would cost vs a regular board up, as I'm hoping to do more of this work and I'll have to do that, regardless, at some point as I acquire vacant buildings and have to wait for permits, funding, timing, etc.
@Brian H. - I've also never done this myself but curious about how it works.
I was also wondering what the situation is with your property? How come you need it boarded up?
Love the idea of a guard dog lol
@Brian H. The real dogs is a service and they handle the food, poop, pickup, and drop off. Happy to connect you if you ever wanted!
@Brian H. As you can see there are multiple approaches to this but let me advise you to not shortcut the security measures. The neighborhood sees the new copper go in or the new hot water heater. The frustration and cost that comes after getting robbed once or even multiple times takes a toll on you financially and mentally. The other reason you have to be extra careful here is you have vacant lots to the north of you which means even more eyes pass by daily or are aware it is vacant. When a house is vacant for months or even years the block knows when you are now working there. My entire point is dont go cheap and if there is a block club president you put her on the payroll too.
@Jonathan Klemm The property I'm looking at is currently vacant, and the city has a slew of requirements for vacant property. There's a Vacant Property Ordinance you can look up, here's some of the requirements: https://ipiweb.cityofchicago.o...
Additionally, there's just the security aspect of making sure it's safe for the neighborhood until construction starts (talk to a CPD vacant property officer - which some neighborhoods have - if you want to find out the terrible things that have happened in unsecured properties). Plus the actual security of the renovation once construction starts...
as discussed by @Mark Ainley . Thanks for the tips Mark. I don't care for the idea of guard dogs much, but still could be useful, especially at the beginning of the process as you mentioned. I'll DM you for the info, since people don't like posting the info in the forums (for some reason?). I agree, security will definitely be an issue, and it is just a frame house - hopefully no one comes through my sidewall! I do know the neighbor, who's active in the community and on the block, and have talked with her previously. I was planning to do Simplisafe and connect with neighbors, but (as she also mentioned last weekend) will probably have to do more than that. I was considering renting a 1/2 shipping container to keep on site for tool storage, though, obviously, folks still are looking for copper/appliances/etc. in the building itself. In one of my current jobs (I work part-time construction), having the tools inside has been troublesome for efficient work and trades scheduling as there's too much junk inside. I was thinking with an outside storage container, I could ensure both better security for tools and materials, and avoid the clutter inside.