I’m considering buying my first investment property to rent out out of state in a hot market like Metro Austin or Denver. ***I have a flexible work schedule and get free unlimited airline tickets*** I do not want to buy in my home state of Massachusetts and am hoping to move sometime in the near future (but probably after buying). I could see myself living in a city like Austin or Denver if I can find work in one of those places.
Would you buy out of state right now if you were in my shoes? Would you say it’s too much trouble to be far away?
It's definitely not too much trouble to be far away if you have a great team! A loyal person on the ground will make your life a lot easier. Let's talk some more about investing in the Austin area!
I think buying where you live is always smart. Get your feet wet with hands on experience. That said, if you're really intent on buying elsewhere, I get it. (I mean, come on, Denver's awesome. Great weather, awesome restaurant and bar scene, mountains are nearby, amazing parks, best beer selection in the country, diversified economy, population growth and the excitement that comes with that ... I could go on and on.)
I'm actually working with a Denver buyer right now who lives in Connecticut but wants to move out here in a year or two. If that's a pretty sure plan for you, then hell yeah, buy now before prices continue to go up. You might also be able to buy it as a second home, which allows for 10% down (not the usual 20% for investment loans) and has a better interest rate.
Be aware on the second home loan issue that Fannie and Freddie have some new rules coming down that might make it harder to get that second home loan. You'd want to chat with your lender about that.
What you may want to check is are you looking for cash flow or appreciation? many beginner investor sometimes doesn't know the city around them has better cap rate and appreciation (so better to invest) compare to out of state city like in Austin (which is already 5% cap rate).
Don't just follow the herds but use the actual data and your projected target/goals.
Your situation makes sense to me. I own where I live but I'm planning to buy a pure OOS investment property in 2021. There are many other markets that make sense for people to invest. It all depends on your personal goals.
If the numbers don't make sense in your own market then investing out of state can be a viable option. It really just comes to building your core 4 and creating a team. Your process is essentially the same as long as you choose a market that matches your REI goals. Good luck! @Blaise Doremus
Investing locally certainly has it's advantages, but so does investing long distance. Most notably, you can go essentially anywhere you want, especially with the network that BP can help you achieve. You most definitely want to have a reliable team wherever you end up going, and doing your research and having a clear "why" for the market you select. With enough prep and learning, investing long distance, even as a first investment, can work well.
I started with turnkey remote rentals in 2009-2015 while working my engineering W2 job. Then went into syndications once my net worth went over 500k. For those people in San Francisco, Hawaii, Los Angeles, Seattle, Boston of primary markets which are NOT ideal for cashflow investing this is the only prudent way to go.
@Blaise Doremus You're asking if it's wise to buy a rental property that you plan on eventually moving into. So your lifestyle choices come into play as well. For ex. do you want to settle in high-end neighborhoods that won't cashflow or are you ok with B-C neighborhoods that will cashflow? I think most people in these forums will agree that buying oos investment is a great idea. But buying your first home out-of-state is a tough question that only you can answer.
It's always difficult to give advice to someone who might be in a different position, but I can share my own experience. I bought my first property out of state in Jacksonville, FL. A friend and investor native to the area helped me pick it out and a solid PM company keeps it going for me. I've been happy with it.
Only if you find a GOOD management company other wise put your money in the stock market
Definitely risky but it can be done. You need to have a ton of trust in the people you are working with. I would stay local for the first toe dip in pool.
With the information out there today and all the books, there is no reason not too.
I’m getting a hold of Norada real estate to buy a few turn key properties.
As well as from REI nation
I’d start small in your backyard. But, if you want out of state just make sure you have a vetted team. I have a strong team in TX and they make my life easy. Can always move there later. You should run your market research and make sure you know your #s.