Is 80% LTV Cash Out possible on a new BRRRR rental?

Is 80% LTV Cash Out possible on a new BRRRR rental?

Flipper/Rehabber · Northern Virginia · Member since 2019 · 58 posts · 32 votes

My wife and I just completed a full renovation of a four bedroom three bath single family home in Baltimore. 

We were planning on selling it but are leaning towards keeping it and using the BRRRR method. We have excellent credit. We're looking to get out as much cash as possible, is 80% possible? There isn't a lease on the property yet but I'm sure there would be quickly because everything is new including all new plumbing, electrical and HVAC.

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Nicholas L.Pro Member
Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
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@Josh H.

i think it's possible, but you might have to call a whole bunch of lenders, and try both banks and DSCR lenders. you might also have to wait until 1. 6 months from purchase and 2. until it's leased. for example, someone might offer you 70% cash out now if it's vacant, but 75-80% if it's leased out and you're 6+ months from purchase date.

so make a whole bunch of calls and see what you get offered.  I recommend The One Brokerage, David Greene's company.  I'm not affiliated with them or sponsored by them in any way, they're just easy to work with and will shop your deal around to try to get you multiple loan offers.

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  • Nicholas L.Pro Member
    Flipper/Rehabber · Pittsburgh · Member since 2018 · 6k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    2y

    @Josh H.

    i think it's possible, but you might have to call a whole bunch of lenders, and try both banks and DSCR lenders. you might also have to wait until 1. 6 months from purchase and 2. until it's leased. for example, someone might offer you 70% cash out now if it's vacant, but 75-80% if it's leased out and you're 6+ months from purchase date.

    so make a whole bunch of calls and see what you get offered.  I recommend The One Brokerage, David Greene's company.  I'm not affiliated with them or sponsored by them in any way, they're just easy to work with and will shop your deal around to try to get you multiple loan offers.

  • Lender · Nashville, TN · Member since 2024 · 700 posts · 284 votes
    2y

    The product is available but the pricing is not as pretty by any means, you’ll be looking at a rate 1-1.5% higher and possibly an extra .5-1 point in cost right off the bat. 

    Happy to connect!

  • Kris HoltPro Member
    Real Estate Agent · Atlanta, GA · Member since 2020 · 15 posts · 18 votes
    2y

    Josh,

    The answer is yes, but it's takes a few more pieces of info to say truly what's possible.  I'd be happy to jump on a call.  We wouldn't have to dive too deep and could issue you a preliminary term sheet pretty quickly, so you know what you're possibly looking at.  Let me know.  Happy to help!

  • Lender · Boston, MA · Member since 2023 · 415 posts · 95 votes
    2y

    Hi Josh, 

    In this market, 80% cashout is possible, but lenders that offer it will charge a premium on the rate. It is more common to see 80% LTV on rate-term refinances, and some lenders will allow you up to $5,000 in cashback proceeds.

  • Lender · Ellington, CT · Member since 2024 · 210 posts · 103 votes
    2y

    Hi Josh,

    80% is available, but the rate will be significantly higher than it would be at a more standard 75%. You'll also want to make sure that you get a lease for the property. Most lenders are fine with just seeing a signed lease and receipt of the first month's rent with security deposit, so the tenant doesn't need to actually be moved in yet. or 80% though it will certainly make the process smoother if you have a tenant lined up.

  • Alex BekezaBusiness Member
    Lender · Los Angeles, CA · Member since 2018 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    @Josh H. We offer 80% cash out in a few states (unfortunately not MD) but as others have mentioned the LLPA associated is substantial. 75% is the industry standard for max cash out but we could close with it vacant as long as it's rent ready and listed for rent online. We'd use the appraisers opinion of market rent to calculate DSCR and just want to see at least a 1.0 (Rent divided by PITI).

  • Rental Property Investor · Boston, MA · Member since 2019 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    No. 75% is max. 

  • Lender · Member since 2022 · 72 posts · 19 votes
    2y

    Yes but rate aren't great.

  • Rental Property Investor · Perry Hall, MD · Member since 2016 · 588 posts · 600 votes
    2y
    Quote from @Josh H.:

    My wife and I just completed a full renovation of a four bedroom three bath single family home in Baltimore. 

    We were planning on selling it but are leaning towards keeping it and using the BRRRR method. We have excellent credit. We're looking to get out as much cash as possible, is 80% possible? There isn't a lease on the property yet but I'm sure there would be quickly because everything is new including all new plumbing, electrical and HVAC.

    Contact @Brian Valdivia at www.beltwaylending.com. He's local to Baltimore and will be able to give you the best options you can currenly get.

  • Real Estate Agent · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 2k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    2y

    For the lenders in here just curious is the rate on a DSCR higher if vacant use market rent? Or do you mean rate is higher due to 80 ltv vs 70 ltv? Thank you

    What are you typically seeing on 70 ltv 0 points 3/2/1 now? 

  • Erik EstradaBusiness Member
    Lender · Member since 2022 · 6k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    2y

    Yes like others have stated, 

    You can do an 80% Cash out on a DSCR loan, however the rate will be significantly high due to LLPAs, making it very difficult to qualify. You can also look into a cash out bridge loan at 80% LTV if the goal is to refinance into a conventional mortgage. There is no Prepayment Penalty on this loan.

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