BRRHELOCR? Doesn't really roll of the tongue..

BRRHELOCR? Doesn't really roll of the tongue..

Real Estate Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 408 posts · 242 votes

MMMMHHHHMMM Success story...

I love the BRRRR strategy, I threw in a little of my own flavor thanks to @Cain Wright. Instead of refinancing it, I will be getting a line of credit on it to use when I please. 

Buy - 65k Thanks @Mark Turney for wholesaling it to me, always love working with you and Steph. 

Repairs - 10,734 (ran into a couple problems, so I'll take it)

Rent - 940/mo (first person I showed it to)

Got a line of credit so I can repeat!

Only a limited amount of photos. I need to get better at documenting stuff.

http://imgur.com/a/pudCj

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Peter TverdovBusiness Member
Developer · New Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
9y

I like doing this as well. You get to keep the same amount of cash flow on property #1, same rate and you're still paying down your principal. Meanwhile, the HELOC you use to buy property #2 gets paid off from the cash flow of property #2. You obviously have to watch rates rising (mine has gone up 1.25 points since I have used it).

I did this strategy 22 months ago. I am making my last payment tomorrow actually and the great thing is now I can use the HELOC again without going through the time and paper work of a CORF.

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  • Investor · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2013 · 60 posts · 9 votes
    9y

    Thanks Deren! Sounds like a good deal!

  • James MaraditsPro Member
    Real Estate Broker · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 239 posts · 224 votes
    9y

    Congrats!

    Using the same strategy with my "live in flip" so I don't have to pay PI when I'm not using the equity.

  • Investor · San Jose, CA, Bellevue, WA · Member since 2016 · 327 posts · 257 votes
    9y

    Awesome!

  • Peter TverdovBusiness Member
    Developer · New Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y

    I like doing this as well. You get to keep the same amount of cash flow on property #1, same rate and you're still paying down your principal. Meanwhile, the HELOC you use to buy property #2 gets paid off from the cash flow of property #2. You obviously have to watch rates rising (mine has gone up 1.25 points since I have used it).

    I did this strategy 22 months ago. I am making my last payment tomorrow actually and the great thing is now I can use the HELOC again without going through the time and paper work of a CORF.

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 265 posts · 234 votes
    9y

    I just cashed out refi my latest BRRRR with 4.25% APR, fixed 30 yrs. @Deren Huang or @Peter Tverdov, other than the flexibility to draw/deposti/draw at will, why do you like the HELOC instead of the 30yr fixed? Am I missing something?

    thanks

  • Real Estate Agent · Tulsa, OK · Member since 2016 · 408 posts · 242 votes
    9y

    @Steve K.

    This is new to me, so not that much real data only head data. I actually only re-fi at a local bank so my terms are going to be terrible compared to yours. I would love to refi onto a 30 year fixed. 

    I don't think you are missing anything, just a different strategy. 

    One of the reasons why I thought this would be a good strategy for me personally was that, the first time I re-fi'd the chunk of money sat in my bank account for 4months at little to no interest.. no point for it to sit there when I was looking for the next deal. So I decided to keep it all in the house, then when I find a new deal, use the HELOC to then purchase the next house.

  • Peter TverdovBusiness Member
    Developer · New Brunswick, NJ · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    9y
    Originally posted by @Steve K.:

    I just cashed out refi my latest BRRRR with 4.25% APR, fixed 30 yrs. @Deren Huang or @Peter Tverdov, other than the flexibility to draw/deposti/draw at will, why do you like the HELOC instead of the 30yr fixed? Am I missing something?

    thanks

    Flexibility to draw is the biggest one IMO. I can use it multiple times before it ends, also it looks much better on my DTI ratios that I have an interest only payment for 5-15 years whereas the CORF increases my debt side of that equation. Sometimes refinance can be good and sometimes HELOC is good. Depends on your strategy for each property. I rather keep my current cash flow and just have a HELOC that gets paid down rapidly vs increase my current cash flow for cash I can only use once (yes I know you can use that cash multiple times through multiple refi's).

  • Denver, CO · Member since 2017 · 265 posts · 234 votes
    9y

    Understood; thanks both of you.....good idea: . @Deren Huang or @Peter T.

  • Andrew SyriosPro Member
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    Residential Real Estate Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    9y

    It doens't need to roll off the tongue if it works. Pictures look great, well done!

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