everyoe says, "do the BRRRR method with no money down", BUT HOW?

everyoe says, "do the BRRRR method with no money down", BUT HOW?

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I am in the process of looking for a property to buy at a lower price rehab with either a 203k loan or utilize the BRRRR method with a hard money Lender. I currently have the money to put down the 20-25% on a conventional loan but than I would tying up all the money I have and limit my ability to scale and invest in future opportunities. The problem that keeps coming, after speaking with 3 HMLs, ALL of them require 15% or more down with dozens of other fees,( origination fee, 3rd party closing costs, underwriting fee, inspections and appraisals, ect.) which come out to the same if not more down than on a conventional loan. I have two real estate deals under my belt which I was told would help me in the application for HM, but it hasn't. I see all over these forum and hear a lot on the podcast as well as YouTube and social media " do the BRRRR method with no money down" but in over a year of looking and 3 applications submitted no where have I seen a product that doesn't require money down. is there anyone on here who can give me some ideas or information on how to specifically find those lenders that do not require money down? is there a specific product I should be looking for or asking for?

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Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
4y

@Dane Davis The elusive, successful, BRRR is Not supposed to be "no money down"....the goal is get all of your cash you invested Out of the deal once you refi.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Fairmont, MN · Member since 2019 · 184 posts · 123 votes
    4y

    @Dane Davis you are likely not going to find a lender that will provide some type traditional "loan product" that allows you to have no money invested. A "no money down deal" is developed through some type of creative financing. Few examples of how this is possible: 1. Seller provider you 100% of purchase price (highly unlikely). 2. Bank provides 75% (or whatever loan to value they can loan to) of purchase price, come up with the remaining 25% from someone (seller, hard money lender, private money investor, etc). These situations required either a highly motivated seller, and awesome deal, or both. The typical property you find on the MLS you won't be able to make the numbers work, especially with no money down.

  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    4y

    @Dane Davis The elusive, successful, BRRR is Not supposed to be "no money down"....the goal is get all of your cash you invested Out of the deal once you refi.

  • Jay HinrichsBusiness Member
    Real Estate Consultant · Summerlin, NV · Member since 2014 · 45k+ posts · 66k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

    @Dane Davis The elusive, successful, BRRR is Not supposed to be "no money down"....the goal is get all of your cash you invested Out of the deal once you refi.


    Exactly its the complete opposite you pay CASH then refi .. trying to borrow money on the front end of these deals just doubles up your closing cost along with interest carry during the project, frankly most people would be much better off to just buy a rental with 20% down and call it a day..  MUCH safer as well. there is a lot of risk in rehabbing property especially remote IE out of state.
  • Flipper/Rehabber · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y

    @Dane Davis let’s start with this. What research have you done, what books or articles have you read?  And what did they say?  Did any of them say get traditional financing?

  • Real Estate Agent · Sisters, OR · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    4y
    Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
    Quote from @Wayne Brooks:

    @Dane Davis The elusive, successful, BRRR is Not supposed to be "no money down"....the goal is get all of your cash you invested Out of the deal once you refi.


    Exactly its the complete opposite you pay CASH then refi .. trying to borrow money on the front end of these deals just doubles up your closing cost along with interest carry during the project, frankly most people would be much better off to just buy a rental with 20% down and call it a day..  MUCH safer as well. there is a lot of risk in rehabbing property especially remote IE out of state.
    Amen!
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