the strangest thing happened on the way to my 2nd sfr

the strangest thing happened on the way to my 2nd sfr

Beebe, AR · Member since 2013 · 6 posts · 0 votes

Howdy all! longtime lurker, first time caller..

First, a big thanks to all who contribute to BP & that awesome podcast!

I'm Brett, from Arkansas. relatively new to the R/E scene. I have a flip under my belt and one sfr so far.

Now, to today's events and the reason for my post.

I currently have a sfr under contract from HUD. 3/2, 18 years old that needed, until today, about 8K worth of upgrades & reno. to flip, LTO, or rent if it didn't sell quick enough to suit me.

I just received an email from my realtor that a truck drove through the privacy fence, the kitchen and laundry room this afternoon.. yep, it now has a drive thru.

According to the info i have from HUD, i can A. walk away and get my earnest money back. B. close as is (as if..) or C. obtain 2 bids from licensed contractors for repair estimates within 72 hrs. HUD will compare these 2 bids with the estimate from their field services company and, I suppose, pay the lesser of the 3 - not clear on this yet, and I need to be.

they want an answer in 24 hours. I have asked my realtor to gather more info asap. I am using an in house loan from my banker for this deal, and wont be able to reach him till monday at the earliest. so now i have to wait for the contractors repairs to be complete before closing.

Optimistically, I'm thinking i might get a credit from HUD, and a house with a new kitchen, etc.. sans appliances. I would apparently pay for the repairs and HUD issues a credit at closing.

Any comments or suggestions, and especially similar experiences with HUD are appreciated.

Thanks

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Flipper/Rehabber · Greeley, CO · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
12y

Wow! I would make sure you know how much the credit is from HUD. I am a HUD listing broker and they usually offer credits that don't come close to the actual cost.

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  • Brandon TurnerPro Member
    Investor · Maui, HI · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    Hey @Brett Jackson CRAZY! I can't say I've ever heard a story quite like this! What's the deal with the truck?

    Personally, I think I'd push forward and make this thing happen. It will be a great story, and you'll learn a ton in the process. Let us know how it progresses!

    (also - don't forget a photo! And welcome to the Forums!)

    (P.S. - any way you can get photos? If so - hit me up and let me know, I'd love to share this on the BP Facebook wall!)

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Greeley, CO · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    12y

    Wow! I would make sure you know how much the credit is from HUD. I am a HUD listing broker and they usually offer credits that don't come close to the actual cost.

  • Beebe, AR · Member since 2013 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    12y

    @ Brandon Turner- i'm driving over in the morning to look for myself and will take a few pics to send you.

    @ Mark Ferguson- that's what i'm worried about. Thanks for the info. my realtor just told me we had till Monday to reply since we didn't receive notice until after hours tonight.

  • FL · Member since 2009 · 2k+ posts · 357 votes
    12y

    @Brett Jackson,

    To make the @ work, do the following:

    Hold down the shift key and type @?

    Look below this Window, and you will see a list of names of people that have posted in this thread.

    Click on the name of the person that you want notified via an email, that you responded to them.

    If you are a Colleague with anyone that has NOT posted in the thread, and you want them to see your post, hold down the shift key, type the @ and the first 4 letters of their First or Last Name.

    Then look below this Window and click on that person's name.

    Raymond

  • Investor · Lafayette/Baton Rouge, LA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 915 votes
    12y

    @Brett Jackson my first question is what kind of insurance did the guy driving the truck have? If it's a good reputable insurer (and he had enough coverage to cover the damages), you should be "made whole" by the insurer. If it's a cheapo obscure named insurance company, they are known to be good at taking premiums but a nightmare to try to collect a claim from.

    It might be hard to get estimates and quotes to choose from on one business day? That seems a little unreasonable of a timeframe from HUD for you to determine whether or not you can still make this work. Even with an adequate credit from HUD, if there isn't an insurer to cover the drive through repairs, your whole rehab just dramatically changed!

    If you had a paint and carpet rehab, can your contractor do this partial rebuild? Can you fund that? Lots of questions that make this very complicated if you have to take on the new project you have on your hands.

  • Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    12y

    Brett,

    Welcome to BeePe. Great suggestions above. One thing I noticed that no one has mentioned yet. You might not be able to get a loan on the property based on its current condition.

    Good luck.

  • Beebe, AR · Member since 2013 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    12y
    Thanks everyone for your input, after sleeping on it, and a visit to the property this morning, I've decided to walk away. I have a full time job (thankfully) and this deal just got too big for me to manage with the time I can devote to it. I'll keep the property in my Zillow favorites and watch as repairs progress. who knows what the deal may look like in a few months.
    On to the next one!
  • Developer · Garland, TX · Member since 2008 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Brett Jackson:
    Thanks everyone for your input, after sleeping on it, and a visit to the property this morning, I've decided to walk away. I have a full time job (thankfully) and this deal just got too big for me to manage with the time I can devote to it. I'll keep the property in my Zillow favorites and watch as repairs progress. who knows what the deal may look like in a few months.
    On to the next one!

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    Good call in my opinion, not only would this be a rehab far beyond what you signed up for, but HUD can be a real pain to work with (you may be stuck with much of the rehab bill).
  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    12y

    Since you would need for the repairs to be completed first before closing, but HUD wants to sell as is, you would have a conundrum. IMO not doable unless you are buying cash or have a portfolio lender who would finance in this new as is condition.

  • Real Estate Investor · Audubon, PA · Member since 2009 · 13k+ posts · 8k+ votes
    12y
    Originally posted by @Robert Leonard:
    @Brett Jackson my first question is what kind of insurance did the guy driving the truck have? If it's a good reputable insurer (and he had enough coverage to cover the damages), you should be "made whole" by the insurer. If it's a cheapo obscure named insurance company, they are known to be good at taking premiums but a nightmare to try to collect a claim from.

    ...

    The insurer would pay the claim to the owner of the property at the time of the incident, who just happens to be HUD and not the OP. HUD being made whole might take a while to happen too.

  • Colleen F.Pro Member
    Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    12y

    Having had a truck hit my house years ago ( and take out two cars and a room) I would say it can take a long time to settle the issue with the insurance. If HUD would pay you that would be one thing but it is probably best that you did walk away because the main payor on this is the truck company's insurance and they may not be quick. did he fall asleep , was he drunk..etc. In the end we made out ok but it was slow to settle.

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