is 90k a reasonable offer on a 120k property?

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the same seller has 2 duplexes for sale, each for 120k. I want to get one for around 90k, also will he be more likely to accept my offer if i offer to buy both for 180k total?

You can offer whatever you like. They say that you should feel a little embarrassed when making offers. However make sure you have a reason to back up your offer. Even if that reason is just with the projected cashflow that's all it makes sense for you to pay. I don't think offering to buy both at a discount is a bad approach at all. Seller may take your offer just so they don't have to deal with the hassle anymore. 

Medium head icon colorRyan Dossey, Call Porter | http://Callporter.com | IN Agent # RB15001099

Brandon, it's also important to note if 120k is market value or its a number the seller just came up with. If you find other properties that have sold for less then you have a better chance at getting both for a better price. Also to piggyback on Ryan you should feel embarrassed about your offer at lease a little. By putting myself in the sellers shoes, I think I'll take the deal so that I won't have to worry about wasting more time and money on the remaining duplex. Maybe give the seller something to think about and if he wants to sell then he will counter. 

[email protected] | 347‑221‑3415 | http://nyreex.com | NY Agent # 10401242434

Without providing specifics, it's hard to comment on your offer.

Objectively speaking, without real knowledge, you are asking for 1/4 discounted on the sellers price. 

The question I pose:  Do you have a sound reason for offering below what the seller has asked for?

An offer only has to be reasonable to you. 

Offer what makes sense to you. You have no control over how a person will react to your offer but you have 100% control over what you choose to offer.

Medium crab1 copyNed Carey, Crab Properties LLC | http://baltimorerealestateinvestingblog.com/

The numbers have to pencil out for you.  Smaller 2-family values are heavily weighed by comparable sales.  What do other similar props sell for?  Run a cash flow analysis and see if there is any cashflow.  A lot of these are over-priced. If it doesn't pencil out at $90k, offer what will, or get closer to their asking price with good terms.  Does the seller need all cash?  What are they going to do after the sale? Seller motivation is key. Cater your offer to what works for both of you and be ok with 'thanks, but no thanks'. Always be prepared to walk away.

@Brandon P. Why not offer 80k or 70k? How did you come up with 90k? That is going to be the first thing the seller will think... that or that they think you are crazy. When I make offers I have a whole back story and list of reasons lined up for the seller. If you can't educate them and make them see why you are offering what you are offering then you don't stand a chance. 

If his 120k asking price is also the ARV then I would start out at about 80 (84k would be 70%) and explain to them that at as an investor my numbers do not make sense unless I get the house at this price and break down why which will depend on the specifics of the house. Also, I always use repairs needed to drive the price down a good amount more right before we sign the contract. At a quad I got under contract this month I was able to get them down a full 24k more right before we signed. That 24k is what I'm ending up making on the property.

The list price is in someways immaterial, the most important thing is what is the property worth? The proper offer price might be full price, or it might be $30,000. The list price is nothing sacred, so don't treat it as such.

Medium apartment logoAndrew Syrios, Stewardship Investments | http://www.StewardshipProperties.com | Podcast Guest on Show #121

  Like other have said it depends. A buyers motives are clear but finding out WHY a seller is selling can be very helpful. Also DOM and was there a recent price drop, these can be good clues for what to offer. 

  

yes, as above, an asking price is just that. What is it worth TO YOU? Target ROI? Each property and each seller is different. And remember: there is always another building.

Originally posted by @Brandon P. :

the same seller has 2 duplexes for sale, each for 120k. I want to get one for around 90k, also will he be more likely to accept my offer if i offer to buy both for 180k total?

Hi Brandon,

I would go even lower.

I write a guide and blog on negotiating. Thick skin is a must in this industry.

Feel free to check it out -

http://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2014/07/05/getting-lowest-purchase-price-possible-skinny-real-estate-negotiation/

I hope your find it useful.

Thanks and have a great day.

Medium list n sell logo designEngelo Rumora, List'n Sell Realty | [email protected] | 419 740 6999 | https://agentscomefirst.com/ | Podcast Guest on Show #89

Do your homework on the numbers and come up with a maximum offer price you are comfortable with.

Don't get caught up in what the owner thinks. The numbers will tell you what you should offer if you run them properly.

Medium rzt hc 6483Michael Noto, SalCal Real Estate Connections | [email protected] | 860‑384‑7570 | https://www.zillow.com/profile/Mike-Noto/ | CT Agent # RES.0799665

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