Real Estate Broker and Attorney · Durham, NC · Member since 2015 · 74 posts · 73 votes
Hello all,
I have been investing in the Cleveland, Ohio area for the last 7 years - it is a great market, but I am looking to diversify. I will be in Florida in about a month for a week and would love to do a little research now so that when I am there I can pick out where I would like to invest and possibly, if fortunate enough, find a property to invest in. I am looking for a property that can serve as a good vacation rental - would be popular year round so that I won't have to fret too much about vacancies - and one that I can use myself when I visit the area (my family and I go there once every one or two years - love Naples, Orlando for the kiddos, Jacksonville, Fort Lauderdale, Miami), a community that is still growing and a property that can cash flow as a vacation rental and appreciate in time as well. The Community's input would be greatly appreciated!!
Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 504 posts · 217 votes
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I agree with EUGENE KEMP. I also recommend St Augustine and Ponte Vedra as a not so busy touristy place. Fernandina Beach as well. Especially St Augustine, for what you are looking to do. St, Augustine being the oldest city has year round traffic without the madness of Orlando. And there is plenty of newer construction as well.
Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2012 · 822 posts · 303 votes
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@Nada Mohamed I think the Davenport area of Orlando is probably where you would want to be looking for properties in Orlando. Would you be financing the property or paying cash? I am a licensed realtor if you need help placing an offer on a place you like.
Ormond Beach , FL · Member since 2015 · 345 posts · 223 votes
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Nada,
The Jacksonville beaches area (Atlantic Beach, Neptune Beach, Jax Beach) are all wonderful and popular areas, without the crowds and craziness of most touristy areas. Check them out on Google maps and consider. My wife is licensed here and would be more than happy to feed you info in form of listings to get you familiar with the current market if you'd like. Good luck!
Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2012 · 822 posts · 303 votes
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@Seth Carlone-Hanson I honestly cannot really speak on the topic as this area is about 40 miles away from me and not in my farm area, but I imagine if you get property at deep enough of a discount, you can :flip: it.
Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 504 posts · 217 votes
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I agree with EUGENE KEMP. I also recommend St Augustine and Ponte Vedra as a not so busy touristy place. Fernandina Beach as well. Especially St Augustine, for what you are looking to do. St, Augustine being the oldest city has year round traffic without the madness of Orlando. And there is plenty of newer construction as well.
Commercial Real Estate Broker · Tampa, FL · Member since 2014 · 216 posts · 86 votes
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Theme parks and beaches...that is what vacation rentals are all about in Florida. Sarasota, Naples and St Pete to Clearwater (beaches) are great vacation rental markets. Though, there is some noise in the more affluent parts to limit or ban vacation rentals from certain submarkets/townships, etc. Neighbors complain about noise and turnover....government complains about a avoiding hotel tax. It is worth checking with the local realtor you are working with to see if the neighborhood is hostile to vacation rentals.
Orlando, FL · Member since 2015 · 19 posts · 13 votes
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Definitely be sure to ask your realtor where in the area you can buy a "vacation" rental. I'm almost positive it's restricted in Orlando itself, and you would need be looking at areas more in Kissimmee, Buena Vista, Celebration etc. I'm not a realtor, I just work for an accommodation website. I know we deny applications for houses in Orlando. I don't know the specifics because I'm not in the department that processes those applications. Disney is not technically in Orlando. it's in Lake Buena Vista. However, Sea World and Universal is in Orlando.
I just found a post made yesterday. It came up in my keyword alerts as I'm going through. Maybe you can contact him.
I am a Realtor as well as an Investor based right here in Orlando. I just wanted to underscore Leslie's comments made earlier; she is right on the money! Short term rentals are not approved for many areas of Orlando (including some of those near Disney); further, for some of the gated communities that are approved, the HOA fees and property taxes can be onerous, so make sure you check over all your numbers prior to investing in one of these units.
As far as an environment for vacation rentals, you probably can't beat the Orlando market. We had over 62 million visitors in 2014, and it may be even higher in 2015.
In my opinion kaizen is correct. There are plenty of properties in these areas to choose from. I own a long term rental in Kissimmee, we lived there for 6 months and we go to Disney or universal 10-20 times a year. Stay close to irlo Bronson Blvd or international Blvd.
If your looking at the west coast then Naples is great if you have A Lot of money to burn. If not then start looking north of there. There are plenty of vacation rentals in Cape Coral and the prices aren't that bad.
In my opinion kaizen is correct. There are plenty of properties in these areas to choose from. I own a long term rental in Kissimmee, we lived there for 6 months and we go to Disney or universal 10-20 times a year. Stay close to irlo Bronson Blvd or international Blvd.
If your looking at the west coast then Naples is great if you have A Lot of money to burn. If not then start looking north of there. There are plenty of vacation rentals in Cape Coral and the prices aren't that bad.
Thank you Adam, do you find it profitable at year's end after all is said and done? How competitive is the short term vacationing rental sector if you know? Should I expect a lot of vacancy? I do not plan on vacationing in Florida as much as you since I am out of state - probably a couple of weeks a year so short term rental is definitely what I am looking for.
I agree with Adam. Cape Coral is a good value and there's a strong demand for rentals.
Thank you Peter, are there certain times of the year that Cape Coral is busy or is it busy year-round for tourism? Are there restriction for Cape Coral when it comes to short term rentals?
Definitely be sure to ask your realtor where in the area you can buy a "vacation" rental. I'm almost positive it's restricted in Orlando itself, and you would need be looking at areas more in Kissimmee, Buena Vista, Celebration etc. I'm not a realtor, I just work for an accommodation website. I know we deny applications for houses in Orlando. I don't know the specifics because I'm not in the department that processes those applications. Disney is not technically in Orlando. it's in Lake Buena Vista. However, Sea World and Universal is in Orlando.
I just found a post made yesterday. It came up in my keyword alerts as I'm going through. Maybe you can contact him.
I am a Realtor as well as an Investor based right here in Orlando. I just wanted to underscore Leslie's comments made earlier; she is right on the money! Short term rentals are not approved for many areas of Orlando (including some of those near Disney); further, for some of the gated communities that are approved, the HOA fees and property taxes can be onerous, so make sure you check over all your numbers prior to investing in one of these units.
As far as an environment for vacation rentals, you probably can't beat the Orlando market. We had over 62 million visitors in 2014, and it may be even higher in 2015.
Best of luck to you.
Thank You Kaizen for your input. Can you suggest particular areas where short term rentals are available? I will keep my eye out for that when searching for sure.
Real Estate Broker · Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2014 · 382 posts · 300 votes
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Hi Nada,
"Season" which is when the snowbirds come south typically runs from Oct/Nov to April. Cape Coral is also seeing a lot of foreign buyers/renters especially from Germany, Switzerland and Canada.
There are no restrictions on renting a single family home but many condo communities have restrictions on the number of leases per year as well as minimum days per lease.
Property Manager · Sarasota, FL · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 1 vote
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From experience with the international tourist industry in cape coral, isn't the yacht club area the go to? I know many europeans like to go there for easy access to boating etc.
Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 504 posts · 217 votes
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St.Augustine is the oldest city tourist attraction with beaches as well..look for Antastasia and Crescent beach in St Augustine..if you want emerald waters for a decent price go towarda Panama City beach, Navarre, Ft.Walton Beach has an air force base and emerald ocean
Real Estate Broker · Cape Coral, FL · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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I can only speak for the Cape Coral area. Over the last two years there have been ZERO vacancies during peak season. At least this is what the local media, news stations and realtors tell me. There is compeition but the we are in need of new housing here. There aren't enough properties. Because of the crash (Cape Coral was one of the hardest hit) a lot of builders are ramping up very slowly. There is a house going up next to mine, across the street and three houses down.
I am trying to get some vacation rentals going but my main focus has been flips and long term. I have a property that I am closing on in a few weeks that would make a great vacation rental. I'm trying to get a few folks to come in with me.
I can only speak for the Cape Coral area. Over the last two years there have been ZERO vacancies during peak season. At least this is what the local media, news stations and realtors tell me. There is compeition but the we are in need of new housing here. There aren't enough properties. Because of the crash (Cape Coral was one of the hardest hit) a lot of builders are ramping up very slowly. There is a house going up next to mine, across the street and three houses down.
I am trying to get some vacation rentals going but my main focus has been flips and long term. I have a property that I am closing on in a few weeks that would make a great vacation rental. I'm trying to get a few folks to come in with me.
Hi Adam,
I have a good friend of mine who owns a property management and vacation rental company in cape coral. Should you be interested, let me know Id be happy to pass on some information.
I agree with Adam. Cape Coral is a good value and there's a strong demand for rentals.
Thank you Peter, are there certain times of the year that Cape Coral is busy or is it busy year-round for tourism? Are there restriction for Cape Coral when it comes to short term rentals?
Nada
Hey Nada - I've lived in Cape Coral for about a year and a half now and have a couple family friends that own vacation rentals in Cape (5+ years). The average occupancy as quoted from their management company's whole book of business in the city is 32 weeks. I've crunched the numbers on several "affordable" FL areas and the only one that appears to make any sense is near Disney where people visit year round but demand from buyers/investors is also very high. Good luck with a seasonal rental in FL in the summer!
I will be in the Orlando area, but do not mind driving out to other areas to take a look . . . I have a week to kill - not there for tourism, husband has business to take care of over there.
I agree with Adam. Cape Coral is a good value and there's a strong demand for rentals.
Thank you Peter, are there certain times of the year that Cape Coral is busy or is it busy year-round for tourism? Are there restriction for Cape Coral when it comes to short term rentals?
Nada
Hey Nada - I've lived in Cape Coral for about a year and a half now and have a couple family friends that own vacation rentals in Cape (5+ years). The average occupancy as quoted from their management company's whole book of business in the city is 32 weeks. I've crunched the numbers on several "affordable" FL areas and the only one that appears to make any sense is near Disney where people visit year round but demand from buyers/investors is also very high. Good luck with a seasonal rental in FL in the summer!
Thanks for the input, the more I do my own research, I find that Orlando may be the best option as low vacancy is very important to me.
Investor · Jacksonville, FL · Member since 2015 · 504 posts · 217 votes
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Since you will be in the Orlando area, You could easily check out Cocoa beach and Cape Canaveral NASA areas...and also Universal parameters and the other big theme park parameters... It would not be too far to search Daytona Beach areas. The actor John Travolta had a home in an afflluent aviation fly in community there in Daytona.
@Nada Mohamed I think the Davenport area of Orlando is probably where you would want to be looking for properties in Orlando. Would you be financing the property or paying cash? I am a licensed realtor if you need help placing an offer on a place you like.
I live in a gated community in Davenport and of the 30 or so houses on my street/block, roughly 10 are rentals. Also 4-5 units for sale in this community as well, but starting in the $250K range; so it depends on the price you're looking to spend on a house. Lots of new construction out here; so plenty of options to choose from.
If you have any questions on any neighborhoods here, let me know.