When do you refinance after a BRRRR

When do you refinance after a BRRRR

Tampa, FL · Member since 2017 · 19 posts · 1 vote

Hello All, 

I would like to BRRRR a few SFH's. After further research, I have been told by more than one lender that you have to wait one year to refinance the property to get the initial cash out. This explanation for this was that the house can not be reappraised at a higher value related to purchase price, for one year. Any experience with this and does anyone know of a way to refinance to get the initial cash investment out before one year?

Thanks in advance for your comments and suggestions!

Kera - RN, fulltime mom and newbie investor

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  • Specialist · Riverside, CA · Member since 2015 · 6k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8y

    That is how the strategy works, but keep in mind that the refinance is one year after purchase not after the rehab is complete.  You can go with hard money to acquire and rehab the property but that can be more risky and costly than just waiting for the ability to refinance.

  • Real Estate Agent · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2017 · 184 posts · 87 votes
    8y
    Some lenders will do it at 6 months. Try community banks or credit unions. If you are looking at commercial products it can be a lot faster. I was talking with my commercial lender today about a cash out refi for a duplex and he’d do it in 90 days, assuming rehab compete and building tenanted. And that’s 75% new appraisal, or 80% if you take a rate bump. Downside is you are looking at a 10 yr term on a 20 or 25 amort and a rate of 5-6%.
  • Kerry BairdPro Member
    Rental Property Investor · Melbourne, FL · Member since 2011 · 3k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    You are looking for a no-seasoning or 6 month seasoning loan product, just so you know what terms to search for.  

  • Rental Property Investor · St. Petersburg, FL · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y
    @Kera Covani fannie mae requires a minimum of 6 months seasoning so anything more than that is a bank "overlay". If you contact more banks, you'll find one that will allow a cash-out at 6 months.
  • Tampa, FL · Member since 2017 · 19 posts · 1 vote
    8y

    Thank you all, for you comments and suggestions!

  • Guy with Great Hair · Austin, TX · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    8y

    6 months seasoning is fairly standard. That's 6 months close-to-close so you can start underwriting a bit early and overlap. you can also use delayed financing to pull 100% of funds out, but no more and it removes the seasoning requirement. This is what I recommend.

    I just flipped a BRRRR in 9 weeks from house close to loan close.

  • Andrew SyriosPro Member
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    Residential Real Estate Investor · Kansas City, MO · Member since 2014 · 10k+ posts · 5k+ votes
    8y

    I would say you should refinance as soon as you can. Different lenders have different requirements regarding seasoning (how long you have to own a property before they'll refinance at appraised value versus what you have in the property). I would recommend talking to a few more banks. And if the best you can find is the 1 year minimum, then unfortunately, you will have to settle for that. But we've found banks that will do it as soon as the property is rehabbed and rented.

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