Buying $30,000 Houses - Strategy to Refinance

Buying $30,000 Houses - Strategy to Refinance

Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote

We are buying $20k-$45k houses in Indianapolis following the BRRR Process. We use private money interest-only loans to purchase/renovate however we still have not decided on the best strategy for re-financing. I don't think it's worth using a fannie mae loan as I can use my 10 fannie mae loans for higher value properties.

Here are my ideas:

  • Build a large portfolio of them and then get a commercial portfolio loan from a small local bank (A bank we deal with California wants $1mil minimum portfolio size, not sure what minimum Indiana banks would have). 
  • Get private P&I loans (5 to 10 year terms) which hurts the cash flow now but pays off later
  • Keep under private money interest-only loans and pay off those loans through Flips, cashflow, or other income
  • Add equity partner with W2 and put fannie mae in their name.

Looking for any ideas or advise! 

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Mike D'ArrigoPro Member
Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
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@Scott Shope You should be able to find a portfolio lender that with a $500K minimum portfolio.

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  • Brandon SturgillBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Columbus, OH · Member since 2013 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Scott Shope I'd be curious to see how this plays out...have you considered starting a blog or diary on this? 

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  • Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 12 votes
    7y

    Hey Scott I'm a broker in indianapolis, if can help let me know. 

  • Mike D'ArrigoPro Member
    Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    7y

    @Scott Shope You should be able to find a portfolio lender that with a $500K minimum portfolio.

  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
    7y

    @Scott Shope  Fannie Mae do not have any lower loan  amount restrictions there are so many banks who can refinance on lower loan amount.You can get long term amortization on conventional loan.

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2015 · 270 posts · 217 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Scott Shope:

    We are buying $20k-$45k houses in Indianapolis following the BRRR Process. We use private money interest-only loans to purchase/renovate however we still have not decided on the best strategy for re-financing. I don't think it's worth using a fannie mae loan as I can use my 10 fannie mae loans for higher value properties.

    Here are my ideas:

    • Build a large portfolio of them and then get a commercial portfolio loan from a small local bank (A bank we deal with California wants $1mil minimum portfolio size, not sure what minimum Indiana banks would have). 
    • Get private P&I loans (5 to 10 year terms) which hurts the cash flow now but pays off later
    • Keep under private money interest-only loans and pay off those loans through Flips, cashflow, or other income
    • Add equity partner with W2 and put fannie mae in their name.

    Looking for any ideas or advise! 

    Tons of local banks in Indy will fund 30K or even less on a single asset with commercial terms, 25 year am, 5 year balloon and similar. Easy to find, just call around.

  • Rental Property Investor · San Francisco, CA · Member since 2017 · 4 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    Very cool! Thanks for the advise @Sam B. & @Mike D'Arrigo 

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2016 · 232 posts · 133 votes
    7y

    @Sam B. Can you name a few banks that you know off the top of your head? 

  • Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2015 · 270 posts · 217 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Mihir Bhimaraju:

    @Sam B. Can you name a few banks that you know off the top of your head? 

     Crane CU, Hendricks County Bank, First Merchants, pretty sure they all have low minimums.

  • Investor · PA · Member since 2013 · 1k+ posts · 602 votes
    7y

    If it doesn't meet their minimum then you can sometimes package more than one on the same note

  • Ryan RomingerBusiness Member
    Real Estate Broker · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 340 posts · 144 votes
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    @Scott Shope I operate a property management company in Indianapolis called Intrigue Indy. I am also a licensed real estate broker with Nottingham Realty Group and I have had a lot of success helping investors (both local and out-of-state) buy investment properties, repair them, and either lease them to quality tenants (BRRRR) or sell them as a flip (BRSR). Let me know how I can help! I’d love to connect for coffee if you’re ever in town!
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