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Rene M.
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posted over 1 year ago

Hello all,

I found another prospect for my first property…

77K for a Brick end-townhome without HOA from 1986. 1200 SQFT, Fenced in yard, Little balcony, 2 bed, 1.5 bath. With a very good location right of the interstate and it's a 1 min walk to 9 different hotels.

My idea is to fix and clean the house up and then put it on AirBnB. Pessimistic business case income should be 1500$ a month - after all Airbnb+Cleaning expenses. Current market rent would be about 900.

I just had the walkthrough and found quite some things I did not like…

1k-There is downstairs laminate floor damage (due to condensation from the airhandler according to the seller).

5k-The airhandler is very old - min 15 years and so is the AC unit.

???k-There were two visible water issues under the bathroom (1 under the sink one under the toilet) - The plumbing looks like poly (below is a picture of the Waterheater - does anyone have an idea if that is Poly and if So how much it would be to replace it in a house like that)

5k-original roof but looks fine no visible roof leaks (very simple roof structure and small surface - don't know how realistic my estimate is?)

1k-Giant tree in the backyard with branches touching the roof (tree removal after approval by city)

???K-Wiring is original and I'm sure that would not fulfill current building codes - Do I have to do something as long as the electricity is working?

2-3k-Carpet on the stairs and upstairs needs to be replaced by vinyl plank

So 20K for the rehab?

There is a lot to do, but I feel the location is strong…

What do y'all think?

Any experts who can help me validate the rehab cost?

Thanks!

Rene

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Christopher Phillips
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@Rene M.

The pipe on the water heater appears to be Nibco Pex. It's hard to read the writings on it, going by what I can see and the terracotta color. Stuff is pretty cheap. What's actually leaking? The pipe or the fixtures?

What's the age of the water heater?

No reason to replace wiring just because it was built in 1986. Even if it was 1950s. It's only an issue if you have knob-and-tube wiring from the 1800s, which you likely don't. You should have three prong outlets everywhere (which are cheap if you don't), and ground fault protected outlets anywhere within 6ft of water in the bathrooms and kitchen and stuff like the laundry area. Check your local codes for exact requirements.

Air handlers are usually good for 15-20 years, give or take.  Usually best to wait until it starts to need too many maintenance calls before messing with it. Only about $1k to $1.5K to replace the air handler. About $6K to replace the HVAC itself.

Give the mold, you might eventually need the air ducts cleaned.

Do the bathrooms have vents to get rid of excess moisture during showers/baths?

Costs $3k to cut a big tree.

Is the townhouse attached? You'll have to find out who is responsible for the townhouse roof. Would need to know the square footage of the roof to estimate the costs.

If you plan to rent it out, don't use super high-end materials on the carpet and flooring. 

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Rene M.
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@Christopher Phillips Thank you very much for the expertise and detailed reply.

You can't see any leaking water only the water stains on the ceiling under where the sink is and under where the toilet is located. 

The water heater is from 2007.

I did not see any mold but wouldn't be surprised when there was enough condensation from the air handler to ruin the floor... It is exactly 15 years old - as is the AC outdoor unit

Holy cow - I had no idea that it is that expensive to remove a tree... Maybe I just let them cut the branches.

It's an attached townhouse in North Charleston, SC. But the neighborhood does not have an HOA so every owner is responsible.

Roof is approx 30000 sqft.

If it were to be Poly plumbing + how much would it be to replace it? 1.5 Bathrooms + small house..

Again many thanks!

Rene

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Christopher Phillips
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Originally posted by @Rene M. :

@Christopher Phillips Thank you very much for the expertise and detailed reply.

You can't see any leaking water only the water stains on the ceiling under where the sink is and under where the toilet is located. 

The water heater is from 2007.

I did not see any mold but wouldn't be surprised when there was enough condensation from the air handler to ruin the floor... It is exactly 15 years old - as is the AC outdoor unit

Holy cow - I had no idea that it is that expensive to remove a tree... Maybe I just let them cut the branches.

It's an attached townhouse in North Charleston, SC. But the neighborhood does not have an HOA so every owner is responsible.

Roof is approx 30000 sqft.

If it were to be Poly plumbing + how much would it be to replace it? 1.5 Bathrooms + small house..

Again many thanks!

Rene

 It's not Polybutylene pipe. That comes in grey. If it was, it's about $6K to $8K to replace the pipes in a house with PEX.

I'm guessing you mean 3,000 square feet for the roof. Cost of Asphalt Shingle Roof Installation in South Carolina

$206.25 per 100 sq.ft. (standard quality, overlay existing roof) (Range: $157.14 - $255.35). (from roofing.promatcher.com).

Air handlers shouldn't sweat. IF they do, it probably needs a professional to look at it. Could be from improper insulation, blocked air flow, and other age issues. Sometimes a dehumidifier can be added to help.

Yes. Cutting 1 tree is expensive. If you're cutting a large number of trees, then sometimes they will pay you do remove them. Also depends on the quality of the wood.

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Brad Baker
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replied over 1 year ago

Congrats Rene!!! Way to get back out there and find a deal!

Chris nailed it, that red pipe is pex. No concern there. If it were poly that would be a very expensive fix. Did you have the property inspected? What was the differential between the air return and the air coming out of the ducts. As long as there's at least at 14 degree differential you're in good shape but should have it serviced to figure out what's going on with the excessive condensation. I've seen water heaters last 20 years and HVAC systems last almost thirty... If you're just planning to rent I'm thinking you can fix up for a rental for far less than 20k. 

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