19 yr old curious about what is wrong with my ROI calculations

19 yr old curious about what is wrong with my ROI calculations

Wholesaler · Calgary, Alberta · Member since 2020 · 44 posts · 1 vote

(Purchase Price: 100 unit @$4m-$5m PP, $1m down)

ACCURATE CONSERVATIVE RETURN NUMBERS FOR APARTMENTS (Can apply to Single and Multi Family as well):

Income #1)Cash flow:@8%-10% ROI =$6.7k-$8.3k/month =$80k-$100k/year

Income #2)Principal Pay Down: @33% minimum of $3m mortgage ($15k/month mortgage) =$60k/year

Income #3)Appreciation: @2% =$80k, @3% =$120k, @4% =$160k

Income #4)Bought Below Market Value: @5% =$200k, @7.5% =$300k, @10% =$400k

Income #5)Other Value Adds (Not Renovations): @2% =$80k, @3.5% =$140k, @4.5% =$180k, 7% =$280k

Yearly ROI On $1m

1)Cash flow =7%-10%

2)Principal Pay Down = 6%

3)Appreciation =8%-16%

Total =21%-31% ROI ($210-$310k)

4)Bought Below market Value =20%-40% ROI (@5%-10% Below)

Total =45%-71% ROI ($450k-$610k)

5)Other Value Adds =10%-28% ROI (@2.5%-7% Value Add)

Total =55%-100% ROI ($550k-$900k)

As well as basically no taxes paid on all of it... (Property tax write offs alone =$70k/year, and cash flow is the only taxed income when doing everything properly so the $6.7k-$8.3k/month Taxable Cash flow = basically 0 taxes paid with just ONE right off/tax savings method).

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  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Did you make up this example?  If so, its pretty optimistic since you're going to buy units for $40K, that'll generate CFBT of $70/month.  

    Which I guess is possible, but I'd get a PDF from a broker with some calcs on it for reference.

  • Wholesaler · Calgary, Alberta · Member since 2020 · 44 posts · 1 vote
    6y

    Yes this is just a made up example for reference to what my guess would be the possible ROI percentages when doing a good Apartment deal, as I stated in the start/title of my post "ACCURATE CONSERVATIVE RETURN NUMBERS FOR APARTMENTS (Can apply to Single and Multi Family as well):"

    Yeah the cash flow was the only thing I was a little not conservative on and should have fixed... 4%-8% would have been conservative id say. 

    As you can see though the cash flow is a tiny percentage of the Total ROI, and the rest of the "income sources" are quite literally unbelievable amounts, yet i'm putting down conservative numbers to get those unbelievable ROIs so I don't know how this isn't a true 45%-100% ROI.

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