Any Successful No Rehab (Turnkey) Investors on here

Any Successful No Rehab (Turnkey) Investors on here

Member since 2020 · 101 posts · 32 votes

As I’ve learned more and more about real estate, I’ve come to the conclusion that I have no interest in flipping or doing a full rehab on a property I’m interested in.  I’m taking a “buy and hold” strategy with tenants approach.

With that being said, the houses I plan to purchase should be move in ready or a “Turnkey”.  Of course this means I’ll end up paying more for the property and that’s okay. 

It seems that more people are focused on finding wholesalers, getting a property flipped etc.

Am I in the minority? Where I live in Arizona, a decent house will be $225K or more.

 I want my property to be move in ready on the day of acquisition and if I have to pay that, it seems like the cost of doing the business I prefer.  Thoughts?  Suggestions?

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Rental Property Investor · Perry Hall, MD · Member since 2016 · 592 posts · 608 votes
6y

There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying turnkey properties. If the numbers work for you and your goals, fits your style and comfort level as an investor then it's perfectly fine.

When I first set my goals to paper I estimated things using the idea of buying turnkeys to establish the baseline of how long it would take me to get there even though I knew I was going to attempt to BRRRR to speed things along and it was surprising to me how quickly I would have gotten there.

My first rental property (that I actually bought with the intention of it being a rental) was turnkey and has done nothing but print money for me since I bought it even though it has a 15 year note on it. I've built up enough equity in it since then to have since established a LOC that I now use to finance BRRRR deals.

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  • Rental Property Investor · Perry Hall, MD · Member since 2016 · 592 posts · 608 votes
    6y

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying turnkey properties. If the numbers work for you and your goals, fits your style and comfort level as an investor then it's perfectly fine.

    When I first set my goals to paper I estimated things using the idea of buying turnkeys to establish the baseline of how long it would take me to get there even though I knew I was going to attempt to BRRRR to speed things along and it was surprising to me how quickly I would have gotten there.

    My first rental property (that I actually bought with the intention of it being a rental) was turnkey and has done nothing but print money for me since I bought it even though it has a 15 year note on it. I've built up enough equity in it since then to have since established a LOC that I now use to finance BRRRR deals.

  • New to Real Estate · Valencia, CA · Member since 2016 · 11 posts · 15 votes
    6y

    I am in the same boat Ibrahim. Are you looking for local properties or have you considered OOS? If you're interested in OOS, there's a great company I really like in the Kansas City and Dallas markets called HomeRoom that will help you find and buy great properties then master lease them back from you. They are using a rent by the room model so they pay you market rent then they rent the rooms out individually. There are no property management fees and no headaches for you as the owner because they handle all the dealings with the tenants. Also they sign 3 year leases. It's a pretty great system. Sure, you won't get as high of returns as flipping or BRRRR but way less stress for you as the owner. Plus they are in good appreciating markets. Might be worth checking out.

    https://livehomeroom.com/coliving-investing

  • Property Manager · Dallas, TX · Member since 2020 · 109 posts · 79 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Jon K.:

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying turnkey properties. If the numbers work for you and your goals, fits your style and comfort level as an investor then it's perfectly fine.

    When I first set my goals to paper I estimated things using the idea of buying turnkeys to establish the baseline of how long it would take me to get there even though I knew I was going to attempt to BRRRR to speed things along and it was surprising to me how quickly I would have gotten there.

    My first rental property (that I actually bought with the intention of it being a rental) was turnkey and has done nothing but print money for me since I bought it even though it has a 15 year note on it. I've built up enough equity in it since then to have since established a LOC that I now use to finance BRRRR deals.

    I completely agree. A bunch of our clients in DFW invest in turnkey properties and it makes things much more simple when everything is new and all the HOA docs are ready to go. In Dallas na Fort Worth it's not everyday that you get a property like that though, but even so there's a lot of properties with a quick fix or two and they're ready to go.

  • Member since 2020 · 101 posts · 32 votes
    6y

    @Josiah Jenison.  I’m still building my business plan and lowering my personal debt to be in a better position to buy investment properties in a little over a year.  Since I don’t have the “boots on the ground” experience, I’ll stick to my own backyard here in Arizona. 

    I haven’t ruled out the possibility of buying out of state investment properties, but that would probably be when I about to purchase my 3rd or fourth home

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    Turn key provider · San Jose, CA · Member since 2010 · 4k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    6y

    @Ibrahim Yamini you're not in the minority at all. A lot of people don't have the time or ability to a fixer and buy turn key. We work with lots of them Most people who are doing this on the side are buys with their work, family and outside interests and don't have the time to be hands on. It's also a good option for an out of state investor. If you go the turn key route, just make sure you're working with a good, reputable turn key company. These are some of the things that you should avoid in any turn key company:

    Don't allow financing or a finance contingency (it can be a good indication they are selling above market value)

    • *Don't allow for your own independent property inspection*Are not realistic with their pro forma's (i.e. they don't include vacancy or maintenance projections or use unrealistically low vacancy factors)
    • *Require you to pay for any renovation upfront
    • *Sell only in cheap. low end neighborhoods
    • *Don't accurately represent the neighborhood/property classification
    • *Don't have consistent rehab standards for all properties
    • *Don't provide a scope of work for the property
    • *Can't provide references of repeat investors
    • *Require you to close before a tenant is in place
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