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Real Estate Investor · Delaware · Member since 2008 · 158 posts · 10 votes

I've heard that investing in Self-Storage is a great idea. I agree! It seems like a great business. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience in this area?

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Real Estate Broker · Cypress, TX · Member since 2013 · 822 posts · 468 votes
12y

@Tabitha K. the two best I've found are:

http://www.selfstoragebrokersofamerica.com/properties.htm

http://www.selfstorages.com/

You can also join this forum and there's a Marketplace in there w/ listings:

http://www.selfstoragetalk.com/

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  • Rental Property Investor · Fredericksburg, TX · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Does anyone have a recommendation on how to find good deals for self storage units?  Other than loopnet.com or crexi.com?  I looked into buying leads from listsource.com, but their self storage leads are horrible. 

    I am very interested in buying a self storage unit here in Texas where I live.  

  • Specialist · Victor, NY · Member since 2013 · 823 posts · 844 votes
    6y
  • Rental Property Investor · Fredericksburg, TX · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    @Michael Wagner: thanks for sharing! 

  • Specialist · Corry, PA · Member since 2015 · 75 posts · 67 votes
    6y

    Clemens, definitely follow Michael's advice and try those resources. Also, I would add that if you are going to find a self storage deal, it will probably be an off-market deal where you approach the owner privately. Honestly, these just don't come up for sale very often because they are great little businesses and the owners generally have a list of people who have offered to buy from them over the years, so in a lot of cases there is no need for them to publicly list them. In addition, I find a lot of the facilities that do end up listed want far too much money and they generally get those prices from investors who just don't care how low the cap rates are. 

    So with that I would develop a big list of all the local storage facilities you can find and start sending mailers/stopping in to visit and see if you can make connections with the owners and go from there.

  • Paul MoorePro Member
    Commercial Real Estate Fund Manager · Lynchburg, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    My firm passively invests with some of the top US self-storage operators. We are seeing an uptick in rentals at facilities with online portals, especially those near colleges. 

    My advice would be to start smiling and dialing to find small mom-and-pops that are interested in selling their facilities.  It will take a lot of calls, but it should pay off if done in large quantities, consistently. Mailers would go hand-in-hand with calling. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Fredericksburg, TX · Member since 2018 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    6y

    Thanks for the advice given, very helpful!  I also get the impression from what is listed on the various platforms (loopnet, etc.) that prices are way too high. 

  • Specialist · Victor, NY · Member since 2013 · 823 posts · 844 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Clemens W.:

    Thanks for the advice given, very helpful!  I also get the impression from what is listed on the various platforms (loopnet, etc.) that prices are way too high. 

    Yes, many listed properties are listed such that they aren't a "deal".  That said, if you are diligent, you can find some great deals...the truth is though, its more about "creating" deals than finding them.  Identifying hidden potential and using creative deal structures can be what makes difference in many cases.  You will also be wise to farm OFF market properties!

  • Investor · Fairfax, VA · Member since 2020 · 17 posts · 11 votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Clemens W.:

    Thanks for the advice given, very helpful!  I also get the impression from what is listed on the various platforms (loopnet, etc.) that prices are way too high. 

    It seems good deals don't make it to public listings, unless you lowball something that has sat on the market too long. I'm sure there are some clever tricks the pros know, but it might be effective to simply brute force call/mail every possible property that you'd want to buy if it was for sale and see if you eventually get one to sell.

  • Investor · Bentonville, AR · Member since 2014 · 759 posts · 379 votes
    6y

    As others mentioned here already. No different than any other asset class, the 'good' deals are usually scooped up before hitting the Loopnets and CREXI's of the world. Storage owners are just like other asset owners in sometimes they'd rather do things easier and sell off-market.

  • Investor · Greenville, SC · Member since 2020 · 14 posts · 17 votes
    6y

    In addition to calling owners and sending out letters as recommended above, I wouldn't discount developing broker relationships in the market you are looking to purchase a self storage facility.  My husband and I purchased our 158-unit self storage facility through a broker.  We lost out on another facility that we bid on and the listing broker from that deal circled back around to us several weeks later, because he knew of another facility in the same market that was for sale (but not as widely publicized at the time for some reason).  The numbers worked for us, and we are happy owners of it today.   Not saying this will be the primary way to find good deals, but it can definitely be used in tandem with the other lead generation methods.

    Faith Hill

  • Member since 2020 · 1 post · 0 votes
    6y

    I’m of the opinion that there are always opportunities.  We just may have to resort to other acquisition strategies to find those deals.  That’s what I’m doing in MD.  However, I have no experience in Self Storage yet.  Just single family houses so far.

  • Henry ClarkPro Member
    Developer · Member since 2020 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
    6y

    @C, if you promise to buy me and my family dinner at Pappadeaux's next time I'm in DFW.  Otherwise don't read the following:  I'll trust you.

    DFW being so big, pick the side you live near.  Then look out 40 minutes.  

    1.  Stay away from Climate controlled units.  Leave this to the Big REITS and larger investors.  Their SEO and leveraging is far greater than yours ever will be.

    2.  Deal- your looking for a property that has a large RV/Vehicle/Boat storage portion, or extra bare ground.  This property will get valued with the parking lot/bare land price.  You will convert it to storage and increase the revenue stream.  Can't disregard the lost revenue of the Vehicle storage, but the original storage should have covered all ancillary costs and most of the land.  Your new buildings should only take about a 35% occupancy for total cash flow break even.  This might be 50% given the loss of the parking revenue.

    DO NOT buy!!!!    Use the following for discussion purposes only

    Look at Loopnet for the Arlington Stor More property.  No price given.

    a.    As you see in the picture there are three storage facilities right next to it.  You have to answer the question, is there more capacity/market.  Even if there is not, offer different products.  Tell the other locations, you would like to buy them (price control, increase the prices after you buy them " you just made 30 % more the day you buy them").

    b.  There is extra land that goes with this property. Plus there is bare ground next to it.

    c.  Take an inventory of both sizes and numbers.  Based on the pictures looks like mainly 10/15 ft units.  "30" buildings could have some 20 splits.  You might then build more 20's.

    d.  You might do vehicle ground storage.

    e.  Build larger storage bays with 12 wide versus 10 wide; 10 tall versus 8 tall;  this will bring a different customer.

    f.  Build Contractor Incubator buildings 25wide by 50 deep. With 14 x 14 doors and a walk thru.  You will get some race car guys.

    g.  Love the road, it has a middle turn lane, so you catch customers both ways.

    h.  See all of the Lakes around you.  Offer the following product:  1.  RV/Boat storage, 2.  Cargo Container storage, 3.  RV rec parking away from the storage.  Make it top notch: a.  water, sewer, dump station, wash station, tire covers, monthly check up service (tires, doors, plug in, propane tank fill, inside motion sensor alarm, etc).  No one in Dallas or Fort Worth wants to drive their RV or Boat back to the city, even if they have the zoning.  Make them a Brand name.  Example:  don't know your last name.  Clemens- Bardswell; Clemens- Waxahachie; Clemens- Cedar Creek; Clemens- Tawakoni, etc for each lake.  Why?  So customers will have a preconceived quality of your product, also when you sell, it will bring more.    REITS won't go after this market, until you build the brand, outside of the corporate think tank.  They won't do the leg work.  Locals won't think that big.  Go with your location features, Lakes.  Develop a cookie cutter Brand model, then its just work and financing after that.     Hey, someone tell me there isn't already something in the area like this and I just wasted a lot of "ink".  

    Key is to offer more/"different" products than your other competition.  Make your deal, don't chase the same deal everyone is looking for.  "Clemens Lake Properties", sounds great.  There are a lot of lakes around DFW.

    Start small and make your Big mistakes early. 

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando · Member since 2016 · 113 posts · 45 votes
    6y

    Great thread. 

    I got an off market Self storage in my hands. 136 units grossing close to 10k/mo, mile away from university and close access to highway and highly transited roads. he showed me the historic rents and he's practically always had them at 98-100% occupied 

    owner will let it go for low 800k. 

    We do commercial multifamily so this is new territory, I know the expenses are a lot less than in multifamily but never done the underwriting. 

    What do you guys think?

  • Scott KronePro Member
    Investor · Northbrook, IL · Member since 2017 · 352 posts · 295 votes
    6y

    @Julian Sanchez Lots of assumptions to be made based upon the info you provided.  Is it worth pursuing?  I would say worth getting more info.  "Grossing close to $10k" sounds like Seller marketing.   With massive assumptions as well as no verification of numbers it could be ~8% cap-ish.  Based upon experience, it could be ~5%-ish.  Possible at 8% not serious at 5%.  Depends on your goals as well.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando · Member since 2016 · 113 posts · 45 votes
    6y

    @Scott Krone

    yes I verified the income, it is $9,795.00/mo to be exact

    I see a gauge of 1/3 in expenses, using that metric it's a 9 cap and I know multifamily in that area to be a 7 cap. 

  • Marquette, MI · Member since 2020 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    where to find self storage published industry cap rates by region, property class, and market class?  thanks

  • Specialist · Victor, NY · Member since 2013 · 823 posts · 844 votes
    5y

    Self Storage Almanac is published by ministoragemessenger

  • Rental Property Investor · Tri-Cities WA · Member since 2019 · 4 posts · 0 votes
    5y

    @Julian Sanchez how far back did you get rents for and how did the deal turn out?

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando · Member since 2016 · 113 posts · 45 votes
    5y

    @Zeb Rodes Hey Zeb. a great bank foreclosure 34 unit apartment deal came our way and we focused on that one. 

    Still have not gotten into self storage 

  • Paul MoorePro Member
    Commercial Real Estate Fund Manager · Lynchburg, VA · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    5y

    As far as more info on self-storage investing, you can check out this new book by AJ Osborne. AJ has been on the BP podcast twice in the past 3 years and he has a wealth of experience.  

  • Investor · Atlanta GA · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 71 votes
    4y
    John,
    I know this thread is a couple of years old but curious if you ended up buying up this facility ? 
    Also, is there a site where you got some of your data ? I thought it was pretty comprehensive. 


    Originally posted by @John Culotta:

    @Michael Wagner - I'm grateful for your insight. I don't want to force anything, but at the same time not sure if I'd be passing up on a smart (long term) business move. Plus, you make a good point, and I..."don't want to be the straw that breaks the camel's back!"

    My goal is to also purchase existing value-add facilities and "force" appreciation. That biz plan, however, seems to be getting harder and harder from my not-so-experienced perspective :) It appears that so many people are jumping into this space and competition is greater with pricing becoming more and more northbound. I'm still learning and looking for the best deals. I'm sure you and @Scott Meyers have better resources and channels to finding those deals - Thanks again!

  • United States · Member since 2021 · 125 posts · 49 votes
    4y
    Originally posted by @Sam Green:

    I've heard that investing in Self-Storage is a great idea. I agree! It seems like a great business. I was wondering if anyone has had any experience in this area?

     Yea, it's more of a business than it is real estate but it is real estate investing and it's usually a good idea. 

  • Investor · Atlanta GA · Member since 2018 · 188 posts · 71 votes
    4y

    Are there any investors here who are active in South East, especially GA ? Would love to connect and pick your brain. 

  • Investor · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2015 · 53 posts · 5 votes
    4y
    Hi All,

    Can anyone shed some light on the permanent financing options for self storage? Are the rates, terms etc similar to your typical investment residential or small multi fam perm financing options? 30y fixed, 70-80% LTV, 5-10y term, 20-30y amortization etc? Are there specific banks only the lend against self storage properties?

    What do the leases look like for renting storage units? Terms etc? Can anyone share for example one of their current leases?

    Finally, anyone successfully investing in self storage in Philadelphia, PA or nearby region? Would love to pick your brain.

    Thanks!




    Originally posted by @Henry Clark:

    @C, if you promise to buy me and my family dinner at Pappadeaux's next time I'm in DFW.  Otherwise don't read the following:  I'll trust you.

    DFW being so big, pick the side you live near.  Then look out 40 minutes.  

    1.  Stay away from Climate controlled units.  Leave this to the Big REITS and larger investors.  Their SEO and leveraging is far greater than yours ever will be.

    2.  Deal- your looking for a property that has a large RV/Vehicle/Boat storage portion, or extra bare ground.  This property will get valued with the parking lot/bare land price.  You will convert it to storage and increase the revenue stream.  Can't disregard the lost revenue of the Vehicle storage, but the original storage should have covered all ancillary costs and most of the land.  Your new buildings should only take about a 35% occupancy for total cash flow break even.  This might be 50% given the loss of the parking revenue.

    DO NOT buy!!!!    Use the following for discussion purposes only

    Look at Loopnet for the Arlington Stor More property.  No price given.

    a.    As you see in the picture there are three storage facilities right next to it.  You have to answer the question, is there more capacity/market.  Even if there is not, offer different products.  Tell the other locations, you would like to buy them (price control, increase the prices after you buy them " you just made 30 % more the day you buy them").

    b.  There is extra land that goes with this property. Plus there is bare ground next to it.

    c.  Take an inventory of both sizes and numbers.  Based on the pictures looks like mainly 10/15 ft units.  "30" buildings could have some 20 splits.  You might then build more 20's.

    d.  You might do vehicle ground storage.

    e.  Build larger storage bays with 12 wide versus 10 wide; 10 tall versus 8 tall;  this will bring a different customer.

    f.  Build Contractor Incubator buildings 25wide by 50 deep. With 14 x 14 doors and a walk thru.  You will get some race car guys.

    g.  Love the road, it has a middle turn lane, so you catch customers both ways.

    h.  See all of the Lakes around you.  Offer the following product:  1.  RV/Boat storage, 2.  Cargo Container storage, 3.  RV rec parking away from the storage.  Make it top notch: a.  water, sewer, dump station, wash station, tire covers, monthly check up service (tires, doors, plug in, propane tank fill, inside motion sensor alarm, etc).  No one in Dallas or Fort Worth wants to drive their RV or Boat back to the city, even if they have the zoning.  Make them a Brand name.  Example:  don't know your last name.  Clemens- Bardswell; Clemens- Waxahachie; Clemens- Cedar Creek; Clemens- Tawakoni, etc for each lake.  Why?  So customers will have a preconceived quality of your product, also when you sell, it will bring more.    REITS won't go after this market, until you build the brand, outside of the corporate think tank.  They won't do the leg work.  Locals won't think that big.  Go with your location features, Lakes.  Develop a cookie cutter Brand model, then its just work and financing after that.     Hey, someone tell me there isn't already something in the area like this and I just wasted a lot of "ink".  

    Key is to offer more/"different" products than your other competition.  Make your deal, don't chase the same deal everyone is looking for.  "Clemens Lake Properties", sounds great.  There are a lot of lakes around DFW.

    Start small and make your Big mistakes early. 

  • Contractor · Member since 2019 · 3 posts · 0 votes
    4y
    Quote from @Julian Sanchez:

    @Zeb Rodes Hey Zeb. a great bank foreclosure 34 unit apartment deal came our way and we focused on that one. 

    Still have not gotten into self storage 


     Hey Julian, did you keep contact with the self storage owner? Do you know if they sold it? Looking to get into self storage in FL.

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