Electrical for Subdivision

Electrical for Subdivision

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When working with the local electric utility, how is the electric paid for when putting in a new subdivision?  Is this usually a lump sum payment?

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Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2018 · 110 posts · 32 votes
8y

Not sure there is a standard.  Here in North Texas, developer can expect to pay a lump sum to have electricity installed.  If you are big enough, you may be able to negotiate a better deal.  Other franchise utilities are usually a little easier to work with.  (example:  you might frint the cost for gas, but then enter into an agreement with the gas company to earn money back as new houses come on line and use gas).

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  • Rental Property Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2018 · 179 posts · 192 votes
    8y

    Please define what you mean by "subdivision"?  Are you referring to a smaller sub panel?

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    By Subdivision, I mean a local subdivision with streets, sidewalks, home and commercial building lots.  I want to know how the local utility company wants to be paid for bringing electrical in. Thanks in advance!  

  • Rental Property Investor · Raleigh, NC · Member since 2018 · 179 posts · 192 votes
    8y

    Your local building department should be able to help with that one.  And, sorry if I'm stating the obvious, but the utility company themselves.

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Right.  What is standard throughout the United States for electrical though?  Does anyone know?

  • Lender · Dallas, TX · Member since 2018 · 110 posts · 32 votes
    8y

    Not sure there is a standard.  Here in North Texas, developer can expect to pay a lump sum to have electricity installed.  If you are big enough, you may be able to negotiate a better deal.  Other franchise utilities are usually a little easier to work with.  (example:  you might frint the cost for gas, but then enter into an agreement with the gas company to earn money back as new houses come on line and use gas).

  • Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 1k+ posts · 745 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Jay Nielsen:

    Right.  What is standard throughout the United States for electrical though?  Does anyone know?

     In Northern Indiana (Nisource), it used to be 20+ years ago (and I assume its still the case)  you would have to put a deposit down to cover the gas and electric distribution services, and you could get some credit back based on houses going into service with some assumed usage patterns.

    City run utilities and REMC's would have drastically different practices.  The Nisource pad mount transformer would run 8-10K, an REMC might charge a few hundred dollars.

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Thank you Jeff and Bart!

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    Attorney · Dallas, TX · Member since 2016 · 5k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    8y

    Was this the last piece in your pro forma? Are you buying land?

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    8y

    Have land, working the numbers.

  • Specialist · Bellaire, TX · Member since 2015 · 1 post · 0 votes
    7y

    Interested to know how your analysis turned out on your potential land sale. I am looking at buying land in Houston. The recent deals I have looked at locally have most all of the costs for electric and gas installation in a new single-family residential land development deal back-end loaded with impact fees to builders. The developer was not paying upfront for installation. 

  • Architect · Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2018 · 843 posts · 907 votes
    7y

    Expect to pay everything up front. Cities/utility companies rarely are going to want to do some kind of pro-rated payment plan. Reason being is it could take YEARS for sub divisions to fill out. You can expect the same for water/sewer as well.

  • Member since 2018 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    7y

    That makes sense.

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