buying an Auction property, no inspection contingency view

buying an Auction property, no inspection contingency view

Rental Property Investor | Realtor · Jacksonville FL | Savannah Ga |Raleigh NC · Member since 2017 · 467 posts · 161 votes

Are all auction foreclosures in America, site unseen, no contingency, no inspection, no return?

What kind of strategy can a buyer with cash and not much experience in flipping do to participate in an auction purchase with condidence in numbers?

1. the buyer peak in window, or buyer asks an agent to peak in window?

2. then hope and pray your estimate is close?

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Investor · River City, Manitoba · Member since 2017 · 162 posts · 193 votes
8y

You will be surprised EVERYTIME. Think of what must happen inside a house for people to absolutely walk away from it and not even try to sell it.

You WILL eventually run into the following:

A house that has had too many animals, either pets or infestation.

Mold / Grow operation

Squatters/ human waste/ house stripped of all copper plumbing and wire

Caveats/ liens against the property that have to be paid prior to change of title.

Do as must due diligence as possible prior to the auction, hope for the best, expect the worst, and have a good remediation team on hand. 

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  • Tom GimerBusiness Member
    DMV · Member since 2017 · 3k+ posts · 3k+ votes
    8y

    Assume the absolute worst including owner-occupied as of the closing date and bid accordingly.

    In addition to being trespassing, peeking in the window only tells you the condition as of the day of the peeking.

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  • Investor · River City, Manitoba · Member since 2017 · 162 posts · 193 votes
    8y

    You will be surprised EVERYTIME. Think of what must happen inside a house for people to absolutely walk away from it and not even try to sell it.

    You WILL eventually run into the following:

    A house that has had too many animals, either pets or infestation.

    Mold / Grow operation

    Squatters/ human waste/ house stripped of all copper plumbing and wire

    Caveats/ liens against the property that have to be paid prior to change of title.

    Do as must due diligence as possible prior to the auction, hope for the best, expect the worst, and have a good remediation team on hand. 

  • Lender · Berkeley, CA · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 549 votes
    8y
    Steve S. My friends walked away from a home in Walnut Creek. He’s a real estate attorney. They purchased at highest point and went under. They didn’t trash the home.
  • Investor · River City, Manitoba · Member since 2017 · 162 posts · 193 votes
    8y

    @David Weintraub please forgive me, I did not mean to imply EVERY house that goes up for auction will have issues. Sometimes a mortgage goes upside down and it's just better to walk away. Totally get that! And if you can find those, it's a treat... but if you're at auctions enough and pick them up to flip or BURR you will run into these issues.

  • NYC, NY · Member since 2016 · 617 posts · 456 votes
    8y

    Some auctions still happen in person and you might get 30 min to walk through.  Now, many are as is, where is, no viewing.  

    Having done both, I like the first.  You get a better sense of the space as your nose can tell you a lot.  

    In the second, a peak through the windows can be deceiving. I learned that my nose is a better indicator than my eyes.  

    So, planning for the worst, as others pointed out, is a good idea.

  • Investor · Princeton, TX · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    8y

    @Matt Berklacy  It sounds like you have a basic understanding.  You should also understand peaking in windows might get you shot.

  • Brian BurkePro Member
    Investor · Santa Rosa, CA · Member since 2012 · 2k+ posts · 7k+ votes
    8y

    @Matt Berklacy most successful auction buyers defend themselves by purchasing multiple homes per year, perhaps dozens or even hundreds. This levels out the risk by blending homes left in pristine condition with ones that are a complete wreck. You never really know what you are getting so you’ll win some and lose some. 

    If you buy only one, you might win, you might lose. You can do that without all of the hard work—just go to Vegas and put it all on black.

  • Lender · Berkeley, CA · Member since 2017 · 1k+ posts · 549 votes
    8y
    Originally posted by @Steve S.:

    @David Weintraub please forgive me, I did not mean to imply EVERY house that goes up for auction will have issues. Sometimes a mortgage goes upside down and it's just better to walk away. Totally get that! And if you can find those, it's a treat... but if you're at auctions enough and pick them up to flip or BURR you will run into these issues.

    Yes, you will definitely run into these issues, but it's not all the time.  I have countless borrowers who purchase properties that haven't been inspected that have few problems.  Also have clients who couldn't see the roof of a 3 story building, and once inside they got to the third floor and saw nothing but blue skies.

    My advice?

    Buy a drone with a camera.  

  • Real Estate Broker · Westminster, MD · Member since 2017 · 159 posts · 101 votes
    8y

    You can peek in windows. Is it trespassing? Maybe, you may find yourself in a very dangerous situation. But the better question is what are you learning? I have been to many houses where the windows are papered over. The thing about betting, whether in Vegas or down the street, is you have to have deep pockets and system. If you have the cash to deal with:  A house that has had too many animals, either pets or infestation, Mold / Grow operation, Squatters/ human waste/ house stripped of all copper plumbing and wire, Caveats/ liens against the property that have to be paid prior to change of title, and afterwards not be financially ruined then go for it. 

  • Investor · frederick, MD · Member since 2017 · 10 posts · 1 vote
    8y
    Wow, some scary replies. Lol I have been buying auction properties and if you go with absolute worst case scenario, in my experience you will rarely be the highest bidder. There is some risk with auction properties and you find something new every time. I suggest you drive around, ask neighbors, bid on empty homes (look for notice on the door) and try to buy in mid to high end market and you can get decent return.
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