Commercial lending for 6 unit apartment in Ohio?

Commercial lending for 6 unit apartment in Ohio?

Rental Property Investor · Glendale, AZ · Member since 2014 · 38 posts · 17 votes

Hi BP!

So... I just took my first step in increasing the # of real estate properties that I own by winning a bid for a 6 unit apartment in Ohio. 

I've been searching around and for a commercial loan.... the range that I could find is the following:

20 yr amortization

5 yr balloon

4.5-5.5% APR

20%

Are these the best rates our there?  I was hoping for a 25 yr or maybe even a 30 yr, but they seem to be hard to find for a 6 units apartment/commercial property.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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  • Mckinney, TX · Member since 2015 · 86 posts · 11 votes
    11y

    Editor’s Note: The following rankings are based on responses to NREI’s 21st annual Top Lenders Survey and reflect total dollars financed or arranged in commercial real estate during the 2011 calendar year.

    This list has been amended to include firms that missed the original deadline.

    1. Wells Fargo

    Try these out 
    Financed in 2011: $43.66 billion
    420 Montgomery St.
    San Francisco, CA 94104
    www.wellsfargo.com/realestate
    Officers: Mark Myers, Head of Commercial Real Estate; Ed Blakey, Head of Specialized Lending - Real Estate

    2. PNC Real Estate
    Financed in 2011: $11.01 billion
    249 Fifth Ave.
    Pittsburgh, PA 15222-2707
    PH: 877.762.7775
    www.pnc.com/realestate
    Officers: Jim Rohr, Chairman & CEO; Bill Demchak, Vice Chairman

    3. MetLife
    Financed in 2011: $11.00 billion
    200 Park Ave.
    New York, NY 10166
    PH: 212.578.2211
    www.metlife.com/realestate
    Officers: Robert Merck, Senior Managing Director, Real Estate Investments; Mark Wilsmann, Managing Director, Real Estate Investments

    4. Prudential Mortgage
    Capital Co.
    Financed in 2011: $9.70 billion
    100 Mulberry St., 8GC4
    Newark, NJ 07102
    PH: 888.263.6800
    www.prumortgagecapital.com
    Officers: David Twardock, President

    5. J.P. Morgan
    Financed in 2011: $8.00 billion
    383 Madison Ave.
    New York, NY 10179
    www.jpmorgan.com
    Officers: Jamie Dimon, CEO - J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; Jes Staley, CEO - J.P. Morgan Investment Bank

    6. Strategic Alliance Mortgage (SAM)
    Financed in 2011: $7.60 billion
    7100 East Pleasant Valley - Ste. 350
    Cleveland, OH 44131
    PH: 216.328.9700
    www.samalliance.com
    Officers: F. Brock Walter, President; Dennis Bernard, Vice President

    7. KeyBank Real Estate Capital
    Financed in 2011: $7.29 billion
    127 Public Sq.
    Cleveland, OH 44114
    PH: 888.539.2221
    www.key.com
    Officers: EJ Burke, Executive Vice President & Head of Key Bank Real Estate Capital; William Hipp, Executive Vice President & Head of Institutional Real Estate & Health Care

    8. CBRE Group Inc.
    Financed in 2011: $6.14 billion
    11150 Santa Monica Blvd., Ste. 1600
    Los Angeles, CA 90025
    PH: 310.405.8900
    www.cbre.com
    Officers: Brett White, CEO; Robert Sulentic, President

    9. Northwestern Mutual
    Financed in 2011: $4.51 billion
    720 E. Wisconsin Ave.
    Milwaukee, WI 53202
    PH: 414.665.2457
    www.northwesternmutualrealestate.com
    Officers: David Clark, Senior Vice President Real Estate; Mike Cusick, Managing Director - West

    10. Cornerstone Real Estate Advisers
    Financed in 2011: $4.00 billion
    One Financial Plaza
    Hartford, CT 06103
    PH: 860.509.2219
    www.cornerstoneadvisers.com
    Officers: David Reilly, CEO; Mark Higgins, President

    11. Berkadia
    Financed in 2011: $3.91 billion
    118 Welsh Rd.
    Horsham, PA 19044
    PH: 800.446.2226
    www.berkadia.com
    Officers: Hugh Frater, CEO; Randall Jenson, President & CFO

    12. NorthMarq Capital
    Financed in 2011: $3.77 billion
    3500 American Blvd. W., Ste. 500
    Bloomington, MN 55431
    PH: 952.356.0080
    www.northmarq.com
    Officers: Jeff Weidell, President; William Ross, President

    13. CWCapital LLC
    Financed in 2011: $3.67 billion
    One Charles River Pl.
    Needham, MA 02494
    PH: 781.707.9300
    www.cwcapital.com
    Officers: Michael D. Berman, CMB, President & CEO; Donald P. King, Managing Director - National Fannie Mae & Freddie Mac

    14. Red Mortgage Capital LLC
    Financed in 2011: $3.66 billion
    Two Miranova Pl., 12th Fl.
    Columbus, OH 43215
    PH: 800.837.5100
    www.redcapitalgroup.com
    Officers: Mark C. Beisler, Chairman & CEO; Kenneth H. Bowen, President

    15. Walker & Dunlop
    Financed in 2011: $3.22 billion
    7501 Wisconsin Ave., Ste. 1200E
    Bethesda, MD 20814
    PH: 301.215.5500
    www.walkerdunlop.com
    Officers: William M. Walker, Chairman & CEO; Howard W. Smith, COO

    16. Natixis Real Estate Capital LLC
    Financed in 2011: $3.11 billion
    9 W. 57th St., 36th Fl.
    New York, NY 10019
    PH: 212.891.5700
    www.re.natixis.com
    Officers: Gregory A. Murphy, Managing Director; Mitch Karig, Vice President

    17. Red Mortgage Capital LLC
    Financed in 2011: $2.65 billion
    Two Miranova Pl., 12th Fl.
    Columbus, OH 43215
    PH: 800.837.5100
    www.redcapitalgroup.com
    Officers: Mark C. Beisler, Chairman & CEO; Kenneth H. Bowen, President

    18. Pacific Life Insurance Co.
    Financed in 2011: $2.63 billion
    700 Newport Center Dr.
    Newport Beach, Ca 92660
    Officers: James Morris, CEO; Khanh Tran, President

    19. Grandbridge Real Estate Capital
    Financed in 2011: $2.47 billion
    200 South College St., Ste. 2100
    Charlotte, NC 28202
    PH: 704.332.4454
    www.gbrecap.com
    Officers: Thomas S. Dennard, CEO; David A. Roberts, CMB, President & COO

    20. Citi Community Capital
    Financed in 2011: $2.29 billion
    390 Greenwich St., 2nd Fl.
    New York, NY 10013
    www.citicommunitycapital.com
    Officers: Hal Kuykendall, Managing Director; Steven Fayne, Managing Director

    21t. Starwood Property Trust
    Financed in 2011: $2.10 billion
    591 W. Putnam Ave.
    Greenwich, CT 06830
    PH: 310.893.2777
    www.starwoodpropertytrust.com
    Officers: Boyd Fellows, Director & President; Warren de Haan, Chief Originations Officer & Managing Director

    21t. Beech Street Capital
    Financed in 2011: $2.10 billion
    7600 Wisconsin Ave., Ste. 800
    Bethesda, MD 20814
    PH: 855.933.6667
    www.beechstcap.com
    Officers: Alan Fishman, Chairman; Grace Huebscher, President & CEO

    23. ING Investment Management
    Financed in 2011: $2.02 billion
    5780 Powers Ferry Rd. NW, Ste. 300
    Atlanta, GA 30327
    PH: 770.690.4600
    www.inginvestment.com
    Officers: Jeff Becker, CEO, ING Investment Management US; Christine Hurtsellers, ING IM CIO, Fixed Income & Proprietary Investments

    24. M&T Realty Capital Corp.
    Financed in 2011: $1.80 billion
    25 South Charles St.
    Baltimore, MD 20201
    PH: 800.737.2344
    www.mandtrealtycapital.com
    Officers: Tari Flannery, President; Arnold Smeenk, Group Vice President & National Production Manager

    25. Principal Real Estate Investors
    Financed in 2011: $1.78 billion
    801 Grande Ave.
    Des Monise, IA 50392
    PH: 800.533.1390
    www.principalglobal.com
    Officers: Patrick Halter, Executive Director, Real Estate; Randy Mundt, President and Chief Investment Officer

  • Rental Property Investor · Glendale, AZ · Member since 2014 · 38 posts · 17 votes
    11y

    Thanks a bunch Damion! Ill check them out.

  • Commercial Loan Officer · Southern Maine, ME · Member since 2009 · 782 posts · 415 votes
    11y

    Based on a scan of that list, I only see one lender who would be interested in a small 6-unit loan. Almost all those are CMBS/Agency/Life companies with large(r) loan requirements.

    That being said, WF has a small balance program that could be of use to you. The offer 25 year amortizations, but their cap is 75% LTV. If you can find 80% LTV then you're doing well, but you really want to make sure that lender is closing loans at that LTV. Very few are.

  • Rental Property Investor · Glendale, AZ · Member since 2014 · 38 posts · 17 votes
    11y

    Thanks @Darryl Dahlen.

    I found a 80% but 20 yr.  I am still looking for an 80% + 25 yr.  :)

    Thanks again
    Chad

  • Heath, OH · Member since 2016 · 8 posts · 2 votes
    10y

    25 yr is tough to find on commercial, typically you'll find a 10 yr balloon with 20 yr am.  We have a 15 yr FIXED rate product on commercial, or the above balloon.  We can finance 80% on commercial as well.  Good luck man!

  • Investor · King of Prussia, PA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 339 votes
    10y

    @Chad C. keep us posted on what you choose/progress!

  • Real Estate Broker · San Jose, CA · Member since 2016 · 44 posts · 4 votes
    10y

    Typically it is 75% , let me know if you find lender with 80% LTV @Ryan West Do you lend in other states outside of Ohio Such as California, TEXAS etc.. ?

  • Realtor · Cleveland, OH · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 857 votes
    10y

    Don't get greedy over 5% take the loan. Your in AZ an bought in OH you'll be lucky to fine most will deny as they don't lend to residents not residing in the same state they own property.

    Which city in OH did you buy in anyways

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