Cash out Refinance guidelines?

Cash out Refinance guidelines?

Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 0 votes

Hi everyone,

I'm looking at doing my first cash out refinance. I purchased the property in 2015 for 150k using a conventional loan. Zillow and Redfin think its currently worth ~200k.

I plugged their estimate into quicken loans, which indicated I would be able to cash out enough to cover all of my initial investment. Unfortunately, the increased mortgage payment would eliminate all of my cash flow. If my maintenance or vacancy costs vary significantly from my estimates then I could be in the red. This seems a bit risky, but being able to put that cash straight into the next deal is a powerful motivator...

Should I consider keeping a cashflow buffer and only withdraw a portion of the available equity? Does anyone have any rules of thumb for this?

At time of purchase I added granite counters, tile, and laminate flooring. Are those upgrades likely to tack on any extra value in the eyes of an appraiser?

Thanks!

Dave

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Josh C.Pro Member
Property Manager · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
9y
Maybe. Just talk to a mortgage person. Also, Redfin and Zillow are as good at estimating values as Grandma. Forget them. Check sold comps. Nothing else means jack.
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  • Josh C.Pro Member
    Property Manager · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2010 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Maybe. Just talk to a mortgage person. Also, Redfin and Zillow are as good at estimating values as Grandma. Forget them. Check sold comps. Nothing else means jack.
  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Thanks @Josh C.  Dang, they're not even usable as a rough estimate? Okay, i'll contact my lender

  • Investor · San Jose, CA · Member since 2017 · 453 posts · 254 votes
    9y

    @David Henry maybe look at a HELOC instead of a cash out refi. This allows you to pay low monthly payments only while you are using the funds.

  • Investor · Las Vegas, NV · Member since 2014 · 6 posts · 0 votes
    9y

    Thanks Sean, a HELOC looks like it could work too. I've never bought into variable interest rate debt before though. Time for some reading.

  • Rental Property Investor · Orlando, FL · Member since 2016 · 463 posts · 220 votes
    9y

    I have found that very few banks will do a HELOC on investment properties.... Too risky for them?

  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
    9y

    Lender do not like to go on 2nd lien for investment properties because of involve risk.  Borrow  as much as you need in cash out unless you have great plan which will use all the funds for next venture. 

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