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Jordan B.
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Conshohocken, PA
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Duplex Evaluation with short term private money loan

Jordan B.
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Conshohocken, PA
Posted

Any help, tips, or any other comments on the below would be greatly appreciated!

I have a few family members that are willing to give me a private money loan at 10%. I will pay 10% interest for each month their money is in use and will pay them back in full once I have done a cash out refinance. 

The property is listed as a duplex with each having 1-bedroom and 1-bathroom. This is a bank owned property that is currently vacant in need of rehab. Property taxes are very low for my area and this is located in a 10/10 school district. 

Property Details:

  • Purchase Price: $80,000
  • Est Rehab Cost: $20,000
  • Property Taxes: $2510

Private money Loan:

  • $50,000
  • 10% Interest
  • Monthly Interest payout: $416.67

Monthly Carrying Costs until cash out refi

  • Interest Expense: $416.67
  • Property Taxes: $209.33
  • Water/Sewer: $55.00
  • Home Owners Insurance: $80
  • Total: $761 

I plan to carry the monthly carry costs for 6 months while i have the property rehabbed/updated and suitable renters found. Once completely occupied, i will do a cash out refinance for the total amount of the purchase price and pay back the private money lender and all rehab costs. 

New Property Details:

  • Estimated Appraised Value: $130,000
  • Property Taxes: $2510 yr
  • Property Insurance: $960
  • Unit 1 Rental: $825
  • Unit 2 Rental: $1075

Cash-Out Refinance:

  • Loan amount: $80,000
  • Interest Rate: 4.25%
  • Term: 360 months
  • Insurance: $80
  • Property Tax: $209
  • Month Mortgage Payment: $682.89

Monthly Property Expenses:

  • Mortgage: $682.89
  • Water: $60 (30 per unit)
  • Sewage: $25
  • Heating Oil: $200 (Estimate)
  • Maintenance/Cap Ex: $190.00
  • Total Monthly Expenses: $1157.89

Final Numbers:

  • Total Monthly Rent: $1900
  • Total Monthly Expenses: 1157.89
  • Profit/Loss: +$742.11 per month / $8,905.32 yr

Am I missing anything? I pulled these numbers off of calculators i created in Excel. In order to make this deal happen i will have to pay for 6 months worth of carry costs which total $4,566. 

Property cost: $80,000

Carrying costs: $4,566

Rehab costs: $20,000

Total: $104,566 for a property potentially worth $130,000. 

Questions: 

When i do a cash out refinance, are closing costs due up front or are they rolled into the mortgage? Is any downpayment usually needed for a cash out refinance? 

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Jordan B.
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Jordan B.
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Conshohocken, PA
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Originally posted by @JR T.:
Youd be better off with a HML than this family of loan sharks you come from. 10% per month? Also consider the value of the HMLs underwriting experince - if they wont do the loan youre probably gonna lose money on it if you do it anyway.

 Sorry, for the confusion. This would be 10% APY. So $50k compounded monthly would be $416.67 a month for interest. I would ask for a clause to be able to pay off their initial investment as early as 6 months with no penalty. So instead of paying $5,000 for a $50,000 loan for a year, i could get away with roughly $2,766 in interest if i can complete this in 6 months. 

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