Bank wants a 3 month holding period on private funds

Bank wants a 3 month holding period on private funds

Daniel RudioPro Member
Investor · Collingswood, NJ · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 2 votes
I'm about to put a duplex under contract and In order to minimize my initial cash outlay, I am considering financing it through a combination of buyer down payment, private lender loan and a conventional mortgage through a national bank. The bank is OK with this structure but has requested that the private lender funds be "vested" in my bank account for at least 2 to 3 months prior to close. Has anyone else come across this? What is the reason the bank would require this as opposed to simply closing both the bank note and private lender note at closing? Thanks, Dan
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Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
9y

It sounds like you are going conventional and your lender wants you to Not show the private money as an additional loan......if so, shaky/fraudulent.

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  • Brooklyn, NY · Member since 2017 · 39 posts · 13 votes
    9y

    Had a similar issue let me know how it turns out?

  • Investor · Avilla, IN · Member since 2013 · 796 posts · 769 votes
    9y
    Find a different small commercial bank
  • Real Estate Professional · West Palm Beach, FL · Member since 2012 · 23k+ posts · 13k+ votes
    9y

    It sounds like you are going conventional and your lender wants you to Not show the private money as an additional loan......if so, shaky/fraudulent.

  • Real Estate Investor · Tempe, AZ · Member since 2012 · 874 posts · 648 votes
    9y
    @Daniel Rudio my guess is that because they will only want the last two bank statements, they won't have to source the money if it's in your account for longer than that.
  • Upen PatelPro Member
    Lender · Nationwide Lender · Member since 2015 · 1k+ posts · 814 votes
    9y

    @Daniel Rudio As other have pointed out, the banker is trying to season the private loan so that its not reflected on the loan. If you share the specifics of the transaction, I can tell you if it is legal - your down payment %, private loan %, conventional loan %, primary residence or investment?

    The other option (completely legal) is you do the conventional loan, do the needed down payment from your funds. Once the loan is closed, then you have the private lender do the loan in 2nd position.

  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Daniel Rudio Lenders don't like it when you borrow money for your down payment. It will make it appear like you have less skin in the game. At a minimum, they will make you season the funds. Most lenders also don't like 2nd position loans on the property due to the risk.
  • Daniel RudioPro Member
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    Investor · Collingswood, NJ · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    Thanks everyone for your responses. Very helpful.  

    @Upen Patel, I am purchasing the property as an investment.  I have not concluded on the financing combination yet, but the likely ranges would be 10-15% buyer down payment, 30-40% private lender financing and the remainder through conventional financing.  Please let me know what you think. 

    Thanks for the advice on the alternative solution. 

  • Real Estate Agent · Garden City, NY · Member since 2016 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    9y
    Daniel Rudio Why so much private lending? Are you getting a better rate than the conventional loan? You avoid PMI at 80% LTV. Or is the private lender a silent partner?
  • Daniel RudioPro Member
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    Investor · Collingswood, NJ · Member since 2016 · 4 posts · 2 votes
    9y

    @Christopher Phillips

    Thank you for your responses. The private lender rate is higher than the bank rate but not so much so that it's prohibitive. Although I would be forgoing slightly higher cash flow, I would be generating a higher CCR. Also, by minimizing my down payment I can utilize my funds across other properties that I am currently considering. Yes, my private lender is a silent partner. Thanks again.

  • Don KonipolBusiness Member
    Investor · The Woodlands TX / Avon, CT · Member since 2009 · 6k+ posts · 10k+ votes
    9y

    "Creative" financing options became very limited post 2009.  Glad to see there is still a little creativity out there!

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