Skip to content
×
PRO Members Get
Full Access
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime.
Level up your investing with Pro
Explore exclusive tools and resources to start, grow, or optimize your portfolio.
10+ investment analysis calculators
$1,000+/yr savings on landlord software
Lawyer-reviewed lease forms (annual only)
Unlimited access to the Forums

Let's keep in touch

Subscribe to our newsletter for timely insights and actionable tips on your real estate journey.

By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions
Followed Discussions Followed Categories Followed People Followed Locations
Private Lending & Conventional Mortgage Advice
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated almost 15 years ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

597
Posts
259
Votes
Mike G.
  • Rehabber / Flipper
  • Simi Valley, CA
259
Votes |
597
Posts

Subordinating a loan

Mike G.
  • Rehabber / Flipper
  • Simi Valley, CA
Posted

Will, I have a followup question to your suggestion. It's a bit off-topic now because the OP indicated he didn't use cash, but I'm thinking others might be interested in your answer, too.

Let's say the house was purchased all cash and there is a 1st trust deed on it. If you get a private money lender to come in for say, 50% or 55%, I would assume that new lender would want 1st TD position. How do you swap the two positions? Also, does the amount on the original Note have to be adjusted, or does that not matter?

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

21,918
Posts
12,883
Votes
Bill Gulley#3 Guru, Book, & Course Reviews Contributor
  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator
  • Springfield, MO
12,883
Votes |
21,918
Posts
Bill Gulley#3 Guru, Book, & Course Reviews Contributor
  • Investor, Entrepreneur, Educator
  • Springfield, MO
Replied

Mike, the way I read this you loaned funds to your LLC and took a 1st DOT from the LLC. You could also just release the DOT, leaving the note in place, but at a time unsecured, since it's your LLC. Now the property is clear and you can borrow from you lender giving a 1st position.

If you have other reasons for the redundant security, you can file a second DOT from the LLC. That means filing one deed of relase and a new 2nd DOT. Using a subordination will require filing the subordination agreement, but filing fees will likely be higher as there will likely be more pages with the subordination than a one page DOR.

You might want to look into using blanket mortgages in your operations and a Partitioned Note with one DOT.

Loading replies...

1 2