Anyone used the BRRR strategy for a property you own outright?

Anyone used the BRRR strategy for a property you own outright?

Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote

I have a property that I own outright that I'm exploring the idea of getting a hard money loan on to finish updating it and rent it out before I do a cash-out refinance in about 6 months or so. Is this a scenario that would be attractive to a hard money lender?

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Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
7y

@Chris Robinson as long as you don't plan on living in the property while you finish the rehab, that could be a great option!

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  • San Antonio, TX · Member since 2019 · 930 posts · 836 votes
    7y

    Isn't that kind of what BRRRR is?

  • Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
    7y

    @Chris Robinson as long as you don't plan on living in the property while you finish the rehab, that could be a great option!

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y
    Originally posted by @Kris L.:

    Isn't that kind of what BRRRR is?

     I thought so but I reached out to a few people and they didn't seem as interested in a property I already owned for some reason. 

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Joel Thompson no intent to live in it at all. My thoughts were to use a Hard/Private loan to rehab the property and use my own cash to pay down debt to maximize my score to prepare for the refinance. 

  • Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
    7y

    @Chris Robinson sounds like a good plan. Shoot for low/no down since you own the property outright.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Joel Thompson would it be frowned on to pull out more equity than what's needed in order to purchase and rehab another property at the same time?

    Full disclosure: I've always done business with my own cash. So some questions may come across as having obvious answers to the more seasoned members.

  • Investor · Kirkland, WA · Member since 2017 · 121 posts · 53 votes
    7y

    @Chris Robinson no one should give you a hard time for asking FAQs. Congrats on getting this far with your own cash!

    Since its your first time using hard money, I'd recommend getting a HML to do the rehab on this property, getting a tenant back in, then refi out of the HML and get the cash you need at that time. This way, you won't be paying the HML rate for the funds used to finance the other purchase and rehab. Plus, your lender will see this first success and may offer a better rate on the next loan.

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    Developer · Philadelphia, PA · Member since 2018 · 21 posts · 7 votes
    7y

    @Chris Robinson I have done this before. It’s actually a great option for a hard money lender because they get first lien on the property without coming up with the acquisition costs.

  • Flipper/Rehabber · Cincinnati, OH · Member since 2019 · 7 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Palak Shah thank you for the insight!

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